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    Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start was finally honored when...

    Koen's long talented as a track-and-field star was finally honored when she won the "Female Athlete of the Twentieth Century" award in 1999. (From a textbook named READ THIS)
    Is this sentence correct? What's the subject before the word "was"? As I know, only a noun (or a pronoun) can be a subject. But the words before "was" are "Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start". I don't see there is a word that can function as a noun. (As a track-and-field start is a prepositional phrase, not a noun.) Thanks!

    A correction: STAR (NOT START)
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    Re: Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start was finally honored when...

    "Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start "
    This is meaningless. Where did you find it?
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    Re: Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start was finally honored when...

    Isn't there a word missing? Possibly 'career'.

    'Koen's long talented career as a track-and-field star was finally...'

    BTW, it's 'star' not 'start'.
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    Re: Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start was finally honored when...

    Even with "career" it's not a natural sentence. She may be talented but her career can't be described as talented.
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    Re: Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start was finally honored when...

    'Track-and-field' and 'honored' mark it as not being BrE. The unnecessary hyphens mark it as not being educated AmE either. The spelling mistake in 'start' doesn't help matters. So, it's not surprising that the sentence isn't natural.

    Fanny Blankers-Koen was a fantastic athlete, though.
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    Re: Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start was finally honored when...

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    "Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start "
    This is meaningless. Where did you find it?
    It is from a textbook named READ THIS.

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    Re: Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start was finally honored when...

    Quote Originally Posted by Roman55 View Post
    'Track-and-field' and 'honored' mark it as not being BrE. The unnecessary hyphens mark it as not being educated AmE either. The spelling mistake in 'start' doesn't help matters. So, it's not surprising that the sentence isn't natural.

    Fanny Blankers-Koen was a fantastic athlete, though.
    Do you natives care about the hyphen? Does the wrongly-used hyphen imply that a person's being educated or not?

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    Re: Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start was finally honored when...

    Lots of native AmE-speakers are uncertain about when to use a hyphen. In the last few years, I've noticed many hyphens showing up where they don't belong; I think this indicates a better-safe-than-sorry mentality.

    I personally care about placing hyphens, which somewhat diminishes my pleasure in reading.
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    Re: Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start was finally honored when...

    Quite, so I think it's a little harsh to think of hyphen hiccups as being 'uneducated'.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 18-Apr-2016 at 16:58. Reason: Fixed typo

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    Re: Koen's long talented as a track-and-field start was finally honored when...

    Quote Originally Posted by z7655431 View Post
    It is from a textbook named READ THIS.
    I suggest that you throw that textbook away.
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