Are "hen sparrow'' and ''cock sparrow" common

Status
Not open for further replies.

Untaught88

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2015
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Urdu
Home Country
Pakistan
Current Location
Pakistan
Hi,

Are "hen sparrow'' and ''cock sparrow" common or Do I have to use "female sparrow" and "male sparrow"?
 

Untaught88

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2015
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Urdu
Home Country
Pakistan
Current Location
Pakistan
Thank you.

Should I also use "hen" and "cock" for "pigeon"?
Should I also use a hyphen?
 

Barb_D

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Member Type
Other
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Perhaps because I'm not much of a bird watcher or perhaps this is an American difference, but I've never heard that.

Female sparrow, male cardinal, whatever. I've only ever used "male" or "female" (usually in relation to plumage).
 

Skrej

VIP Member
Joined
May 11, 2015
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Apparently so, according to this website.

Honestly, I usually just use cock/hen with a few select birds such as pheasants (male also called 'rooster'), chickens (male is also called a rooster), guineas, and peafowl - primarily only those which are domesticated or hunted, where gender distinction is more important.

Otherwise, with songbirds and such, I'd tend to just use male/female with most species of birds.

Some birds have specific names for the male genders, although the female name is often just hen or the same as the type of bird it is.

goose: male = gander, female = goose
hawk: male = tiercel, female = hawk
duck: male=drake, femal = duck
turkey: young male = jake, mature male= tom or gobbler, female = hen
 

Charlie Bernstein

VIP Member
Joined
Jan 28, 2009
Member Type
Other
Native Language
English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Hi,

Are "hen sparrow'' and ''cock sparrow" common or Do I have to use "female sparrow" and "male sparrow"?

I've never heard those. Here in the US, cock and hen generally refer to chickens. And we call male chickens roosters more often than we call them cocks.
 

Tarheel

VIP Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2014
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Oh good! More fowl names to learn!

(If I don't call a male hawk a "tiercel" will he get mad at me?)
 

Skrej

VIP Member
Joined
May 11, 2015
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Or if he's feeling a bit peckish.
 

Rover_KE

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jun 20, 2010
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
England
Current Location
England
Don't forget the moorcock/moorhen and peacock/peahen (to be fair, Skrej mentioned 'peafowl' earlier but some of you may have missed it.)
 

jutfrank

VIP Member
Joined
Mar 5, 2014
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
England
Current Location
England
Who shot Cock Robin?
 

Charlie Bernstein

VIP Member
Joined
Jan 28, 2009
Member Type
Other
Native Language
English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Whippoorwilliam Tell.
 

Tdol

No Longer With Us (RIP)
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2002
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
Japan
hawk: male = tiercel, female = hawk

I had managed to live my whole life up to today without knowing the word tiercel. While these names clearly exist, in most contexts using male/female would work fine.
 

Tdol

No Longer With Us (RIP)
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2002
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
Japan
What are the male and female of the sparrowhawk? And when was the last time you went hawking? ;-)
 

Skrej

VIP Member
Joined
May 11, 2015
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
I had managed to live my whole life up to today without knowing the word tiercel. While these names clearly exist, in most contexts using male/female would work fine.

I suppose it's based on how much contact you have with birds and/or one's general interests, but between being a farm boy and hunter in my youth, I use or hear most of those specific terms.

Where I grew up, calling a tom, drake, or rooster a "male turkey/duck/pheasant/chicken" would earn you a bemused smile and get you mentally labeled as a city slicker, a pejorative to be avoided at all costs!

However, most of my coworkers today likely wouldn't know any of these terms, as their idea of wildlife is a squirrel in their backyard. I suspect using the term cock in my workplace today would earn me a sexual harassment complaint, as all my female coworkers are high maintenance city gals.

But then, I can also identify an animal by scat or footprint (or at least if it was an animal indigenous to the area I grew up), so I suppose we all have different skill sets.
 

Charlie Bernstein

VIP Member
Joined
Jan 28, 2009
Member Type
Other
Native Language
English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Skrej, you're an endangered species!
 

konungursvia

VIP Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2009
Member Type
Academic
Native Language
English
Home Country
Canada
Current Location
Canada
If one needs to talk about the gender of sparrows, then 'cock' and 'hen' are common enough.

I would never have known that, not even in a parallel universe in which I was Steve Irwin.
 

Tdol

No Longer With Us (RIP)
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2002
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
Japan
I suppose it's based on how much contact you have with birds and/or one's general interests, but between being a farm boy and hunter in my youth, I use or hear most of those specific terms.

I'm a townie. I enjoy watching birds, but can barely name them apart from the more obvious ones.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top