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    The use of 'of which' -- is it correct here?

    Hi there,

    I have two sentences, although the latter sounds more correct, it feels as though it is missing something that the first sentence possesses. Am I using 'of which' correctly in the first sentence, or should I just use 'that'?

    Sentence 1: "Tasty deserts share ingredients of which ordinary deserts lack."
    Sentence 2: "Tasty deserts share ingredients that ordinary deserts lack."

    Perhaps there's just a better way to phrase this?

    Your help would be much appreciated.

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    Re: The use of 'of which' -- is it correct here?

    Welcome to the forum, Just Some Guy.

    I think you mean 'desserts'.

    #1 would be grammatical without 'of'.
    #2 is fine.

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    #3

    Re: The use of 'of which' -- is it correct here?

    The sentence seems that to imply that normal desserts are not tasty.
    How about : Great tasting desserts have extra ingredients that normal desserts don't.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #4

    Re: The use of 'of which' -- is it correct here?

    Oh dear...yes! I did mean 'desserts', aha.

    Great! Thanks for all the comments :)

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    #5

    Re: The use of 'of which' -- is it correct here?

    NOT A TEACHER




    1. "Tasty desserts have ingredients which ordinary desserts don't."
    2. "Tasty desserts have ingredients that ordinary desserts don't."

    Kindly remember that most Americans would prefer No. 2.

    Most American teachers suggest using "that" for defining clauses. That is to say, the clause "ordinary desserts don't" is absolutely necessary and cannot be deleted (dropped).

    "Which" is used for non-defining clauses (extra information that is not essential):

    "Tasty desserts, which I eat every day, have a lot of sugar." (Please note the commas. They indicate that the information can be deleted without harming the basic meaning of "Tasty desserts have a lot of sugar."

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    #6

    Re: The use of 'of which' -- is it correct here?

    'Which' is acceptable in defining clauses in BrE.

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    #7

    Re: The use of 'of which' -- is it correct here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Just Some Guy View Post

    Great! Thanks for all the comments. :)
    Please don't use home-made emoticons to replace standard punctuation marks.

    If you want to insert a smiley you can click on the icon.
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 08-May-2016 at 13:21.

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    #8

    Re: The use of 'of which' -- is it correct here?

    As the Parser says, here in the US, "which" would be wrong.

    In the US, we might say either:

    1. He stole the pie that was on the porch. (There was more than one pie. One was on the porch. That's the pie he stole.)

    2. He stole the pie, which was on the porch. (There was one pie. It was on the porch. He stole it.)

    The British would use "which" in both cases. I believe that British and American English use the same comma rule.
    Last edited by Charlie Bernstein; 08-May-2016 at 14:29.
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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    #9

    Re: The use of 'of which' -- is it correct here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    1. He stole the pie that was on the porch. (There was more than one pie. One was on the porch. That's the pie he stole.)
    Charlie Bernstein, how ever can you tell from that single sentence that there were more pies?

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    Re: The use of 'of which' -- is it correct here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    The British would use "which" in both cases.
    No they wouldn't. You can't make sweeping statements like that.
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