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    cheating at dice

    Father: Our son's starting to cheat at dice. I told him to roll it, and he would pretend to, but he's really first choosing the side he wants, turning that face to the side, and then gingerly rolling it so that the side he wants comes out on top. It's fascinating to watch him be intelligent enough to know that the side he wants should not be on top while the dice is still in his palm. He knows to put it on the side, and make the dice make just one turn when rolling it.

    Mother: Well, it would be easier to cheat if he would position the dice so that the side he wants would be facing his palm, and just turn his palm over as he pretends to roll the dice. This way, he wouldn't have to worry above over-rolling the dice. (he wouldn't have to worry above making sure the dice make just one turn.)

    Father: Yeah, right. Teach him how to cheat (sarcastically).

    Mother: I'm just saying.

    The above description may be a little bit verbose, but I'd like to describe exactly what the child was doing. Can anyone make it pithy?
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    Re: cheating at dice

    Break his fingers; then you won't have to worry about what to say.

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    Re: cheating at dice

    Your description is pithy enough, Marcus.

    Breaking his fingers is a bit drastic. Make him put the dice in a cup and rattle it about before throwing it.

    Usage note: The word 'dice' is actually the plural of 'die', but it's used so often to mean one of them that we have to accept 'one dice' and 'two dice' as correct. ('Two dices' is wrong, though.)
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 09-May-2016 at 08:50.

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    Re: cheating at dice

    Quote Originally Posted by curiousmarcus View Post
    Mother: Well, it would be easier to cheat if he would position the dice so that the side he wants would be facing his palm, and just turn his palm over as he pretends to roll the dice.
    That's natural enough in speech, but in careful writing I'd try for more consistency in the tenses.

    It would be easier if he positioned the sides so that the side he wanted was facing his palm, and just turned his palm over and pretended to roll the dice.

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    #5

    Re: cheating at dice

    Quote Originally Posted by curiousmarcus View Post
    Father: Our son's starting to cheat at dice. I told him to roll them. . . .
    Dice is plural. Die is singular. Another weird English word.
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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    Re: cheating at dice

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Dice is plural. Die is singular. Another weird English word.
    Well, not weird, just irregular. We have plenty of them!
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #7

    Re: cheating at dice

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Dice is plural. Die is singular. Another weird English word.
    Okay, so if you use dice even when referring to just a single die (which is already very common), you'd have to use them?

    EDIT: I quoted the wrong post. It should have been Charlie Bernstein's correction of my post: I told him to roll them. . . .
    Last edited by curiousmarcus; 10-May-2016 at 00:41.
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    Re: cheating at dice

    I wouldn't use the word dice to refer to a single die. Someone who thought dice was both singular and plural would use It for a single "dice" and them for two or more.
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    #9

    Re: cheating at dice

    Would this method of cheating count as palming the die/dice?

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    Re: cheating at dice

    Palming something usually means concealing it in the palm of one's hand. That doesn't describe this kind of cheating. I imagine dedicated craps players have a word for this but I don't know what it might be.
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