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    exceed female students by two.

    1. Is it better to say "in the cases of France and Germany" if quoted ones are plural?
    2. Can you say "exceed A by number" to replace 1?
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    First, more male students from France, Germany, Sweden and Spain enrolled in CAD core option than female students.
    1. In the case of France and Germany, there are two more male students than female students.
    2.In the case of France and Germany, the number of male students exceeds that of female students by two. Or male students outnumbered female students by two.
    In the case of Sweden and Spain, there are five more male students than female students.


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    #2

    Re: exceed female students by two.

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    1. Is it better to say "in the cases of France and Germany" if quoted ones are plural? Yes, plural is probably better here.
    2. Can you say "exceed A by number" to replace 1? I'm not sure what you mean by "to replace 1."
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    First, more male students from France, Germany, Sweden and Spain enrolled in CAD core option than female students. This sentence is good except for "CAD core option." That should be rephrased.
    1. In the case of France and Germany, there are two more male students than female students. I don't understand this. Do you mean there are twice as many?
    2.In the case of France and Germany, the number of male students exceeds that of female students by two. Or male students outnumbered female students by two. This means that in all of France and Germany, there are just two more males. (If you say "cases," then there are two each - for more males in all. Again, are you trying to say there are twice as many?
    In the case of Sweden and Spain, there are five more male students than female students. This is the same as the sentence before it.

    Are you trying to say two more or two times as many? (This is also expressed as "twice as many.")
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    #3

    Re: exceed female students by two.

    In BrE, it's more usual to stick with "In the case of ...", regardless of how many examples follow.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: exceed female students by two.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    In BrE, it's more usual to stick with "In the case of ...", regardless of how many examples follow.
    Good to know. For us, it would depend on whether we're considering it two separate cases or one shared case.
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    #5

    Re: exceed female students by two.

    Keannu -

    When you say "two more" and "exceeds by two," it means adding two:

    2+2=4
    10+2=12
    500+2=502
    2,000,000+2=2,000,002

    Is that what you mean? Or do you mean multiplying by two?:

    2x2=4
    10x2=20
    500x2=1,000
    2,000,000x2=4,000,000

    If that's what you mean, say "twice as many" or "two times as many."
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    Re: exceed female students by two.

    All the sentences were intended to mean "two more" but the context without actual numbers seems to confuse readers to interprete them as "two times".

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    #7

    Re: exceed female students by two.

    Reporting these numbers seems to be a very specific reading of the chart. The question asks you to describe the main features.
    "Female students outnumbered males from all countries except Spain, where the male/female ratio is 2:1."

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