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    male students by three.

    1. Can you replace "exceptionally" with "Exceptively"?
    2. Can you compare numbers like this "by three"? Or do you have to say "three more female students" without "by three"


    *Exceptionally, more female students from Syria enrolled in CAD core option than male students by three.

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    #2

    Re: male students by three.

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    1. Can you replace "exceptionally" with "Exceptively"? No.
    2. Can you compare numbers like this "by three"? Or do you have to say "three more female students" without "by three" No.


    *Exceptionally, more female students from Syria enrolled in CAD core option than male students by three.
    Your sentence doesn't make sense. Are you trying to say that three more female students enrolled, or three times as many female students enrolled?
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    Re: male students by three.

    Three more students.
    What about this?
    Female students outnumbered male counterparts by three.
    Last edited by keannu; 09-May-2016 at 09:20.

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    #4

    Re: male students by three.

    "There were three more female students than there were male."
    Why don't you just give the numbers?
    "There were 20 male and 23 female students", for example.
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    #5

    Re: male students by three.

    Doesn't outnumber with by a number work?

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    #6

    Re: male students by three.

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    Doesn't outnumber with by a number work?
    Yes, you give the difference but not the actual number.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: male students by three.

    We can give the number. Here are some examples: http://fraze.it/n_search.jsp?q=outnumber.+by&l=0

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    Re: male students by three.

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    Doesn't outnumber with by a number work?
    We use outnumber when the two groups oppose each other: The pirates were hopelessly outnumbered. We outnumber the other team, but they have more good players.
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    Re: male students by three.

    I'm sorry. Is this sentence correct or not?

    Female students outnumbered male counterparts by three.

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    #10

    Re: male students by three.

    Quote Originally Posted by andi harper View Post
    I'm sorry. Is this sentence correct or not?

    Female students outnumbered male counterparts by three.
    For me, it's a little ambiguous. I'm uncertain if there were three more female students, or if there were three times as many female students, although I'd probably assume the first.

    With such a small number (3), the verb 'outnumber' seems like too strong a verb. I'd probably just say "There were 3 more females students than male students".

    This is just my preference, not a rule, but for 'outnumber', I'd expect to hear it was a significantly larger number.

    A paltry difference of three could be due to something no more than absenteeism, it doesn't convey the dramatic over-balance I associate with 'outnumber'.
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