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    the name by which He is addressed in prayer

    Does " the name by which He is addressed in prayer" mean "the name that He speaks to in prayer"?

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    You may now be tempted to execute the following pirouette: God cannot be judged by human standards of morality. But we have seen that human standards of morality are precisely what you use to establish God's goodness in the first place. And any God who could concern Himself with something as trivial as gay marriage, or the name by which He is addressed in prayer, is not as inscrutable as all that.

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    Re: the name by which He is addressed in prayer

    No, it means the name somebody uses for God when praying to God.
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    Re: the name by which He is addressed in prayer

    It means "the name which people who are praying use to address god/refer to god".

    [Cross-posted with Skrej.]
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    Re: the name by which He is addressed in prayer

    I've got it clearer, but not crystal clear.

    For example, Mary prays for David, so David is the name by which God is addressed in Mary's prayer?

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    Re: the name by which He is addressed in prayer

    No. She is praying to God for David. We have no idea how she addresses God.

    In the Lord's Prayer, God is addressed as 'Our Father'. In many Christian prayers, he is addressed as 'Lord'.

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    Re: the name by which He is addressed in prayer

    I think the original sentence is making allusion to the fact that God also has different names in different languages (Allah, God, Jahweh, etc.), more than the fact that there are multiple ways of addressing him even within one language.

    It's stating that God is (or should be) indifferent to how one addresses him, or in other words God is non-denominational.
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    Re: the name by which He is addressed in prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    No. She is praying to God for David. We have no idea how she addresses God.

    In the Lord's Prayer, God is addressed as 'Our Father'. In many Christian prayers, he is addressed as 'Lord'.
    I seem to have got it:

    So the name (in "the name by which He is addressed in prayer") refers to the name of God. Whether a prayer calls Him as God, Our Father in Heaven, My Lord, it depends on the prayer. And the author says that that God pays attention to such trivial things is difficult to understand?

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    Re: the name by which He is addressed in prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTaste View Post
    I seem to have got it:

    So the name (in "the name by which He is addressed in prayer") refers to the name of God. Whether a prayer calls Him as God, Our Father in Heaven, My Lord, it depends on the prayer.
    Not so much the specific prayer, just whatever name the supplicant chooses, but yes, you've got the gist of it.
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    And the author says that that God pays attention to such trivial things is difficult to understand?
    No, it's saying the just the opposite. Any God who does pay attention to such details isn't difficult at all to understand.

    God doesn't (or at least in the author's opinion shouldn't) pay attention to such minor details.

    Edit: In other words, the author is insinuating that any God who does care about such triviality isn't a real God, or at least isn't a God worth worshiping.
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    Re: the name by which He is addressed in prayer

    Sam Harris is an atheist- he's saying that any god that cares about the name that people use when praying is not much of a god. He's suggesting that religions that specify the name of a god and demand that the name is used in prayer or are worried about gay marriage are not very convincing religions.

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