pilot or cow catcher

Status
Not open for further replies.

curiousmarcus

Member
Joined
Apr 9, 2016
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Tagalog
Home Country
Philippines
Current Location
Philippines
I read somewhere somebody said that the term cow catcher is mostly found in children's books. Which term do adults normally use? Or is this another case of the mechanic versus the layman?
 

Skrej

VIP Member
Joined
May 11, 2015
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
It's not a widely used term either way, these days. The big V-shaped ones are largely a thing of the past - you'll still seem them on restored steam engines, mostly because they're traditional and nostalgic.

Modern diesel locomotives have a flatter, less pronounced wedge shape.

Unless you work on the railroad or are a train enthusiast, most people probably wouldn't even know what you're talking about. I'd forgotten that's what the things were called until I did some research.

According to Webster, 'pilot' was the preferred term for railroad workers.
 
Last edited:

emsr2d2

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 28, 2009
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
UK
Until reading Skrej's post, I had no idea what you were talking about. I assumed a cow catcher was a person who caught cows, presumably by chasing them round a field!

Trains in the UK have no such things attached.
 

GoesStation

No Longer With Us (RIP)
Joined
Dec 22, 2015
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
I think cow catcher is pretty widely understood by Americans, at least in the context of old steam engines.
 

SoothingDave

VIP Member
Joined
Apr 17, 2009
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Yes, I understand "cow catcher."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullbar

Interestingly enough, the Candian term for the bars placed on the front of trucks/SUVs to protect is "moose bumper."
 

Rover_KE

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jun 20, 2010
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
England
Current Location
England
That's interesting, Marcus; I don't think it does.

I've known 'cow catcher' from familiarity with old American movie steam locomotives since I was a small boy 70 years ago, but I've never heard of 'push bar' (or 'pilot' in this context).

I added 'cow catcher' to the Ngram you linked to, with the expected result, though I'm surprised that 'push bar' comes so high up, especially as none of the American responders here so far have mentioned it.
 

Tdol

No Longer With Us (RIP)
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2002
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
Japan
I hadn't heard the term push bar, but Google is full of images of cars fitted with them.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top