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    Re: History of Karbala

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Perhaps:

    I will walk with you all the way there. I will be with you from start to finish.
    You got my point! But, there is not a "you". The story says: even after 40 days, the caravan doesn't leave the pledge. They company to the end of the way!
    Please correct my mistakes if you encounter any.

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    By "condition of companionship" I mean: if you say you are my company, you should be with me to the end of the way. The way which has a lot of difficulties in it. So the condition of companionship is....
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    #23

    Re: History of Karbala

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    You got my point! But, there is not a "you". The story says: even after 40 days, the caravan doesn't leave the pledge. They company to the end of the way!
    This is a toughie. That doesn't make sense in English. Perhaps:

    They keep their promises.

    Perhaps:

    They complete their mission. They keep at it until the very end.

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    Re: History of Karbala

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    By "condition of companionship" I mean: if you say you are my company, you should be with me to the end of the way. The way which has a lot of difficulties in it. So the condition of companionship is....
    Loyalty?

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    Re: History of Karbala

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    This is a toughie. That doesn't make sense in English. Perhaps:

    They keep their promises.

    Perhaps:

    They complete their mission. They keep at it until the very end.
    Thanks, but these are too far from what I mean. What is your idea about this: The key factor of companionship is coming along from start to finish.
    Please correct my mistakes if you encounter any.

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    Arbayean means completion. It means fulfilling doing something to the end. And returning captured caravan to Karbala means you should come along from start to finish. Oath of loyalty in love includes being a firm friend. Oath of loyalty in love is passing through all cols, bottlenecks and (adj: consequent/in front/coming/future) difficulties.

    The Signs of faith

    If you were asked what the signs of faith are, what would you answer? How can you understand if you are a believer? Belief (Eteqaad) is derived from the Arabic root "Aqada" which means "knot". Belief means tying humans' thoughts and existence with something. If I tie myself with something, I believe in that. However, faith (Iman) means peace coming. Now, how can you understand who has faith and who is faithful? One day, Amir-al-mumenin Ali (AS) asked the prophet Muhammad: "What are the signs of faith?" He talked about 33 signs and checking each signs needs...
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    #27

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    Thanks, but these are too far from what I mean. What is your idea about this: The key factor of companionship is coming along from start to finish.
    I think you are talking about friendship and not companionship. You can be a companion to somebody without there being a serious commitment.

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    #28

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    Perhaps:

    It means you finish what you started.

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    #29

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    And returning a captured caravan to Karbala means you finish what you started. It means you do the task to completion.

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    Re: History of Karbala

    Arbayean means completion. It means fulfilling doing something to the end. And returning captured caravan to Karbala means you should come along from start to finish. Oath of loyalty in love includes being a firm friend. Oath of loyalty in love is passing through all cols, bottlenecks and (adj: consequent/in front/coming/future) difficulties.

    The Signs of faith

    If you were asked what the signs of faith are, what would you answer? How can you understand if you are a believer? Belief (Eteqaad) is derived from the Arabic root "Aqada" which means "knot". Belief means tying humans' thoughts and existence with something. If I tie myself with something, I believe in that. However, faith (Iman) means peace coming. Now, how can you understand who has faith and who is faithful? One day, Amir-al-mumenin Ali (AS) asked the prophet Muhammad: "What are the signs of faith?" He talked about 33 signs and checking each signs needs...
    Please correct my mistakes if you encounter any.

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