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    confirming and agreeing

    On your forum I read the folowing conversation:
    Question: Do people say No to mean they are in agreement with negative statements?
    Answer: We aren't using "no" to agree, we are using "no" to CONFIRM a negative statement.


    So my question is does that mean:
    Mother: We are not buying a new car.
    Father: No. (he confirms) / Father: Yes. (he agrees)

    I always thoughtt no is for confirmation/agreement and yes for disagreement/no confirmation?

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    Re: confirming and agreeing

    In practice, context and, in speech, tone of voice and emphasis, convey the message. Also, we rarely give a single word response. Father's actual response are more likely to be:


    No, we're not. / No, we aren't.
    Yes, that's right.

    My personal feeling is that the 'no' response is more natural and common.

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    Re: confirming and agreeing

    Quote Originally Posted by starmooneye View Post
    Mother: We are not buying a new car.
    Father: No. (he confirms)
    Could 'No' mean 'No, that's not the case'?
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    Re: confirming and agreeing

    It could. It depends on intonation and context.-As I have already said, we rarely give single word responses in such situations. This is partly because the meaning of single-word responses is not always clear.

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    Re: confirming and agreeing

    OK, so:

    If Mother and Father both want no new car:
    Mother: We are not buying a new car.
    Father: No, we arenīt. (confirming)
    OR
    Mother: We are not buying a new car.
    Father: Yes, thatīs right, we are not buying a new car. (agreeing)


    If Mother wantīs no new car, but the father wantīs to buy a new car:
    Mother: We are not buying a new car.
    Father: Yes, we are! (not confirming)
    Or
    Mother: We are not buying a new car.
    Father: No, thatīs wrong, we are buying a new car. (disagreeing)


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    Re: confirming and agreeing

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Could 'No' mean 'No, that's not the case'?
    Given the potential ambiguity, people almost always add a few words to these responses. Listeners who are uncertain what was meant ask for clarification. So this subject isn't worth a lot of discussion beyond the recommendation to use enough words to make the response unambiguous.
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    #7

    Re: confirming and agreeing

    Quote Originally Posted by starmooneye View Post
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    Re: confirming and agreeing

    Quote Originally Posted by starmooneye View Post
    : We aren't using "no" to agree, we are using "no" to CONFIRM a negative statement.
    I just looked through some threads and wonder about this one. I mean there is a small difference between confirming and agreeing, but in this context it should mean the same?
    So you agree and confirm a negative Statement with "no", for example:
    Person 1: We should not go there.
    Person 2: No, we should not. I completely agree with you.


    In this example Person 2 agrees with "no", so the sentence "We aren't using "no" to agree, we are using "no" to CONFIRM a negative Statement." is wrong. Or do I misunderstand the Quote? Starmooneye seems to have quoted the moderator Cagey (at least this brought my Google Search to light).

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    Re: confirming and agreeing

    That response is clear because Person 2 added extra words. Did you read GS's post 6?

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    #10

    Re: confirming and agreeing

    I want to point out something else:


    Person 1: We should not go there.
    Person 2: No, we should not. I completely agree with you.

    In this example person 2 is using "no" to AGREE with person 1. But somehow moderator Cagey once wrote:
    "We aren't using "no" to agree, we are using "no" to CONFIRM a negative Statement."

    So?

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