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    pronunciation: LAW

    Hello friends.

    I'd be most grateful if native speakers could listen to this recording http://vocaroo.com/i/s1GMabhmmTIw of me saying the following:

    "law enforcement"
    "break the law"
    "in a court of law"
    "the letter of the law"
    "lawsuit"
    "lawful"

    What do you think of my pronunciation of the word LAW? (Note that I'm only aiming for American English).
    Last edited by andi harper; 21-Jul-2016 at 12:47.

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    Re: pronunciation: LAW

    It's very good.
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    Re: pronunciation: LAW

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    It's very good.
    Hi, GoesStation.
    Thank you so much. I'm so happy to hear that. I just want to say that I'm in the process of changing my pronunciation, so this is really important to me. In the recording, I pronounced all the LAWs with the Ah vowel sound as in FATHER and I'm planning on always pronouncing the word LAW like that. Would it be acceptable to do that in American English?

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    Re: pronunciation: LAW

    Quote Originally Posted by andi harper View Post
    Hi, GoesStation.
    Thank you so much. I'm so happy to hear that. I just want to say that I'm in the process of changing my pronunciation, so this is really important to me. In the recording, I pronounced all the LAWs with the Ah vowel sound as in FATHER and I'm planning on always pronouncing the word LAW like that. Would it be acceptable to do that in American English?
    Actually you're doing better than that: you're pronouncing law with the same vowel as caught or dawn -- in my pronunciation, anyway. Many Americans use the same vowel in caught, cot, law, lot, and father, but I don't. Those who merge those vowels don't use the one you're producing; they use a vowel with less-rounded lips for both sets of words.

    I don't think merging the two will impede understanding. This distinction is much less important than the difficult one (for Russophones, anyway) between the vowels in ship and sheep.
    Last edited by GoesStation; 21-Jul-2016 at 20:10. Reason: Add an example.
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    Re: pronunciation: LAW

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Actually you're doing better than that: you're pronouncing law with the same vowel as caught or dawn
    Just to clarify. You're saying that the way I pronounced all the LAWs in the recording sounded to you like I pronounced them with this vowel [ ɔ ], the one that people who do not have the caught-cot merger pronounce "caught" with?

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    Re: pronunciation: LAW

    Quote Originally Posted by andi harper View Post
    Just to clarify. You're saying that the way I pronounced all the LAWs in the recording sounded to you like I pronounced them with this vowel [ ɔ ], the one that people who do not have the caught-cot merger pronounce "caught" with?
    Yes. I couldn't find the IPA symbol in a form I could paste in here.
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    Re: pronunciation: LAW

    If you don't mind listening to another recording of me saying the same words but this time I'm pronouncing them with what I consider to be this vowel sound [ ɔ ]. Please tell me what you think of it. http://vocaroo.com/i/s1GLCRv7lvmv

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    Re: pronunciation: LAW

    You're pronouncing the sound very well. Congratulations.
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    Re: pronunciation: LAW

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    You're pronouncing the sound very well. Congratulations.
    Thank you very you much.

    But did you hear any difference in the pronunciation of the word LAW between the first and the second recordings?
    Last edited by andi harper; 23-Jul-2016 at 20:59.

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    Re: pronunciation: LAW

    Quote Originally Posted by andi harper View Post
    Thank you very you much.

    But did you hear any difference in the pronunciation of the word LAW between the first and the second recordings?
    The second is even better than the first. You have a little trouble with law enforcement. It's probably harder to get the vowel right when the following word begins with a vowel. Try putting a very brief pause between the words.
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