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    #1

    the reason why....flusturated

    Hi,

    I have a book written by a non-native speaker of English and it says that it is wrong to use 'why' in the sentence:

    ''The reason why he gave us for the delay frustrated us all.''

    The source: ENGLISH GRAMMAR INSIDE AND OUT by Nesibe Sevgi Öndeş (p. 432)

    Is it wrong to you?

    Thanks.

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    #2

    Re: the reason why....flusturated

    The book is correct. Simplify the sentence to understand it: The reason he gave frustrated us. There's no room for why.
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    #3

    Re: the reason why....flusturated

    Some would put "that" there instead of "why" but you don't need either one. Simply delete "why".
    Last edited by Tarheel; 26-Jul-2016 at 21:44. Reason: Insert "don't".

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    #4

    Re: the reason why....flusturated

    I love the word 'flusturated', as in your title.

    Whether you meant it or not, it's a great combination of flustered and frustrated.

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    #5

    Re: the reason why....flusturated

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Some would put "that" there instead of "why" but you need either one.
    Did you mean 'neither'?

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    #6

    Re: the reason why....flusturated

    If you wish to use a relative there, it should be (either) "that" (or "which"). You need a relative pronoun.
    Last edited by tzfujimino; 26-Jul-2016 at 10:49.

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    Re: the reason why....flusturated

    I think the relative adverb 'why' can be used in 'The reason why there was a delay frustrated us all'.
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    #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    I think the relative adverb 'why' can be used in 'The reason why there was a delay frustrated us all'.
    No.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: the reason why....flusturated

    I think it is common to say 'the reason for the delay', but is 'the reason why there was a delay' grammatical?
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    #10

    Re: the reason why....flusturated

    Not a teacher

    We don't need a relative adverb. After simplifying this sentence, we will get these two simple sentences and I think it is obvious that we need a relative pronoun to combine the two simple sentences to get one complex sentence:
    "He gave a reason for the delay. It frustrated us all." ...after paraphrasing...> "The reason [which/that] he gave us frustrated us all."
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 26-Jul-2016 at 13:57. Reason: Adding 'Not a teacher'.

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