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    Question slogan-like?

    Does it make sense if I say: "regretful and slogan-like claims"?
    Please improve it to a common collocation.
    Please correct my mistakes if you encounter any.

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    Re: slagon-like?

    I have no idea what your title means, but the phrase doesn't make that much sense- could you give an example?

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    Re: slagon-like?

    For example, someone who has broken his promises several time, comes to you and says: oh, I'm sorry, I won't do that again. I'm regretful and I do whatever you say from now on. I will do this i will do that...". But you are % 100 sure that he is lying and wants to trick on you. His claims are very similar to slogans which won't come true.
    Please correct my mistakes if you encounter any.

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    Re: slagon-like?

    I had a dictation mistake. May I ask you to correct it? slagon----> slogan
    Last edited by Narkises; 09-Aug-2016 at 16:50. Reason: capitalizing I
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    #5

    Re: slagon-like?

    There an expression which goes "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

    Similarly, "Once bitten, twice shy".
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    Re: slagon-like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skrej View Post
    There an expression which goes "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

    Similarly, "Once bitten, twice shy".
    Thank you Skrej, but in terms of translation, I always have this problem that Word by word translation from Persian to English will be rediculous in English. I myself understand it. But I cannot change the concept of the origin words in its Persian text. I mean I would like to use: regret, slogan and claims in the Engish corresonding phrase. Can you offer me a phrase with these 3 words?
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    Re: slagon-like?

    I encounter another problem while translation. Persian literature may be different from English. I am always full of doubts when I translate Persian metaphors and similies to English. I appreciate you if you give me some advice.
    Please correct my mistakes if you encounter any.

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    Re: slagon-like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Narkises View Post
    I mean I would like to use: regret, slogan and claims in the Engish corresonding phrase. Can you offer me a phrase with these 3 words?
    "Regretful and slogan-like claims" is as good as anything if you must use those words. It would only be understandable to other speakers of Persian and English who know what you mean by it, since they know what you've translated it from.
    The way you translate something depends upon the purpose. If it is meant to be read and understood by English speakers, there is no point wording it in a way that English-speakers won't understand. For metaphors, do you to keep it as literally close to the original as possible, or do you want to produce something that sounds authentic in the target language?

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    Re: slagon-like?

    The more I try to keep it close to Persian, the less understandable it will be in English. So, I think it is a spectrum which I should stand on the middle, closer to English.
    I want to produce authentic words so that everyone feels comfortable while reading them. By everyone, I mean everyone who can read them, both native English speakers and nonnatives.
    Please correct my mistakes if you encounter any.

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    Re: slagon-like?

    You might be able to call it a lying mantra.

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