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    Question tag —He has got to be the most beautiful boy ever...

    Hi!
    This is a new thread in which we will discuss some sentences that need suitable question tags.
    The sentence is:
    He has got to be the most beautiful boy ever,........? [the context implies deduction]
    My opinion: "isn't he?".

    He has got to watch more films than I do, ..........? [the context implies deduction]
    My opinion: "doesn't he?".

    You can see the first response in this thread: https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/t...6-Question-tag
    Thanks in advance!
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    Re: Question tag —He has got to be the most beautiful boy ever...

    Casiopea's response nailed it. Isn't he? is not possible; either hasn't he or doesn't he​ is.
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    Re: Question tag —He has got to be the most beautiful boy ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Casiopea's response nailed it. Isn't he? is not possible; either hasn't he or doesn't he​ is.
    The first sentence is the same style of the second one.
    Now, let's see the second one:
    Casiopea said:
    She has got to eat her vegetables, doesn't she?
    She has got to eat her vegetables, hasn't she?
    Consider what he wrote which I put in red. How can the tag contain "doesn't" while the sentence has "has got". That is what I mean.
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    Re: Question tag —He has got to be the most beautiful boy ever...

    "She has got to eat her vegetables" -> "She has to eat her vegetables" ->"She does have to eat her vegetables, doesn't she?"
    The meaning is preserved, so the "doesn't she?" tag is acceptable.

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    Re: Question tag —He has got to be the most beautiful boy ever...

    The doesn't she tag is an elision of "doesn't she have to?"
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    Re: Question tag —He has got to be the most beautiful boy ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    "She has got to eat her vegetables" -> "She has to eat her vegetables" ->"She does have to eat her vegetables, doesn't she?"
    The meaning is preserved, so the "doesn't she?" tag is acceptable.
    I don't think so. I think the verb in the sentence should be "has" so that we can say "doesn't she?".
    The meaning is not preserved at all because the doesn't she tag is an elision of "doesn't she have to?" [As GS said] and we don't use "have (got) to" in the negative to refer to deduction but we can use "can't". Using "doesn't have to/haven't got to" refers to obligation.
    Compare: He can't be the most beautiful boy in the school. [It is impossible that he is the most.......]
    He doesn't have to be the most beautiful boy in the school. [He is not necessarily the most...........]

    What do you think now?
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    Re: Question tag —He has got to be the most beautiful boy ever...

    I think you're over-analysing things as usual. That's not the way question tags work, at least in natural English.
    If you're insisting that something has to be done, you're not likely to want a question tag. If you did, you'd probably say "hasn't she?".
    But you were asking for a justification of Caseopia's response in #3, which I've given.

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    Re: Question tag —He has got to be the most beautiful boy ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    I think you're over-analysing things as usual.
    This is the way linguists work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    If you're insisting that something has to be done, you're not likely to want a question tag.
    What your are saying implies that you think that "has to" refers to obligation but I said the context is about 'deduction'.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    But you were asking for a justification of Caseopia's response in #3, which I've given.
    I just gave this response to make my opinion which I was to mention later clear.
    I would justify that Caseopia used "doesn't" while the sentence had "has got to" is that we tag the main verb not the modal or helping verb.
    "In contexts where "must" shows 'deduction' we can tag "must" in the ordinary way. Since the sentence is positive, the question tag should be negative. But the negative form of "must" is "can't" not "mustn't" so the meaning is not perserved. We cannot use "can't" in the natural English. But since, for example, "he must be clever" in the context of 'deduction' equals "I am quite sure/certain he is clever", we can tag the main clause to preserve the meaing."

    Based on my above explanation:
    1- he must/has got to be clever, mustn't/hasn't/isn't he?
    2- they must/have got to play well, mustn't/haven't/don't they?
    3-she must/has got to cook well, ,mustn't/hasn't/doesn't she?
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    4-he must have been clever, wasn't he?
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    Re: Question tag —He has got to be the most beautiful boy ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    "She has got to eat her vegetables" -> "She has to eat her vegetables" ->"She does have to eat her vegetables, doesn't she?"
    The meaning is preserved, so the "doesn't she?" tag is acceptable.
    THis is one of those rare occasions when I don't agree with you and, even more rare, do agree with man of manners. I think that the meaning is less important than the form, and that the natural tags (if one is going to use a tag) are:

    She has got to eat ..., hasn't she?
    She has to eat ..., doesn't she?
    She does have to eat, doesn't she?

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    Re: Question tag —He has got to be the most beautiful boy ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by man of manners View Post
    1- he must/has got to be clever, mustn't/hasn't/isn't he?
    2- they must/have got to play well, mustn't/haven't/don't they?
    3-she must/has got to cook well, ,mustn't/hasn't/doesn't she?
    In my opinion,

    1. ..., isn't he? is unnatural.
    2. ..., don't they? is unnatural.
    3. ..., doesn't she? is unnatural.

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