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    #1

    It shouldn't rain tomorrow.

    Can I say "It shouldn't rain tomorrow"? Can negative should express (lack of) probability?
    If I were a native speaker of English, I would never shut up. :-)

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    #2

    Re: It shouldn't rain tomorrow.

    You will hear it in BrE, to mean "It's not forecast to rain tomorrow [but of course the weather forecast isn't infallible]".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #3

    Re: It shouldn't rain tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by englishhobby View Post
    Can I say "It shouldn't rain tomorrow"? Can negative should express (lack of) probability?
    Americans would say ​It's not supposed to rain tomorrow. "Not supposed to" and "shouldn't" are generally synonyms, but in this case, shouldn't​ doesn't work in AmE.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: It shouldn't rain tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    You will hear it in BrE, to mean "It's not forecast to rain tomorrow [but of course the weather forecast isn't infallible]".
    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Americans would say ​It's not supposed to rain tomorrow. "Not supposed to" and "shouldn't" are generally synonyms, but in this case, shouldn't​ doesn't work in AmE.
    Can the same answers be applied to using oughtn't to in the same situation (with rain) in BrE and AmE?
    If I were a native speaker of English, I would never shut up. :-)

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    #5

    Re: It shouldn't rain tomorrow.

    No. The verb 'ought (not)' implies that the rain has got a choice in the matter, as in 'I oughtn't to have that extra glass of wine before driving.'

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    Re: It shouldn't rain tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by englishhobby View Post
    Can the same answers be applied to using oughtn't to in the same situation (with rain) in BrE and AmE?
    Oughtn't really doesn't exist in AmE. We say shouldn't or, sometimes, ought not.
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    Re: It shouldn't rain tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Oughtn't really doesn't exist in AmE. We say shouldn't or, sometimes, ought not.
    So, can ought not replace shouldn't in this context?
    If I were a native speaker of English, I would never shut up. :-)

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    #8

    Re: It shouldn't rain tomorrow.

    A speaker of BrE and a speaker of AmE have both told you that ought not/oughtn't ​ doesn't work in this context.

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    #9

    Re: It shouldn't rain tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by englishhobby View Post
    So, can ought not replace shouldn't in this context?
    Not in AmE because a) we don't use oughtn't and b) we don't use shouldn't​ in this context.
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