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    That doesn't mean they are anti-science, as an essay suggested. Two meanings?

    Hi, everyone.

    I came across the following sentence just now.

    But surely that does not mean environmentalists concerned about uncontrolled industrial growth are anti-science, as an essay in US News & World Report last May seemed to suggest.

    I think, without context, the sentence could have two meanings.

    #1 The essay seemed to suggest that doesn't mean environmentalists are anti-science.
    #2 The essay seemed to suggest that environmentalists are anti-science. Surely, that's not correct.

    Am I right in understanding it in this way? Or rather, the sentence only means #2.

    I'd like to hear your opinions.

    Many thanks

    Richard

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    Re: That doesn't mean they are anti-science, as an essay suggested. Two meanings?

    Quote Originally Posted by cubezero3 View Post
    But surely that does not mean environmentalists concerned about uncontrolled industrial growth are anti-science, as an essay in US News & World Report last May seemed to suggest.
    The essay seemed to suggest that a certain group of environmentalists (those who are concerned about uncontrolled industrial growth) are anti-science.

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    Re: That doesn't mean they are anti-science, as an essay suggested. Two meanings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    The essay seemed to suggest that a certain group of environmentalists (those who are concerned about uncontrolled industrial growth) are anti-science.
    Hi, Piscean.

    Thank you for your kind reply.

    This is how I construed the sentence in the first place. Then it occurred to me there might exist another possibility.

    So, I feel I have to ask whether you think there is no circumstance under which the sentence could mean #1.

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    Re: That doesn't mean they are anti-science, as an essay suggested. Two meanings?

    I think it could not mean #1 because the following clause is closest to the as-clause.

    Quote Originally Posted by cubezero3 View Post
    environmentalists concerned about uncontrolled industrial growth are anti-science
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: That doesn't mean they are anti-science, as an essay suggested. Two meanings?

    Quote Originally Posted by cubezero3 View Post
    So, I feel I have to ask whether you think there is no circumstance under which the sentence could mean #1.
    Neither of your two sentences means that. The word 'environmentalists' is restricted by the words that follow it. The writer of the essay was not referring to environmentalists in general. If there were a comma after 'environmentalists, that would be different.

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    Re: That doesn't mean they are anti-science, as an essay suggested. Two meanings?

    I'm still not sure about one thing. Let me re-write my question.

    In a nutshell, I think the sentence in question could convey two different meanings.

    #1 US News & World Report suggested the said environmentalists were anti-science.
    #2 US News & World Report didn't agree the said environmentalists were anti-science.

    It seems everyone agrees #1 is the information the sentence tells people.

    I still think #2 could also be possible in an appropriate context. For example:

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    But surely that does not mean environmentalists concerned about uncontrolled industrial growth are anti-science, as an essay in US News & World Report last May seemed to sugest.

    I have to give credit to US News & World Report. It's a true maverick. These days it's all too easy for the media to put tags on various people and organizations.

    ...
    Here, the author agreed with US News & World Report that environmentalists concerned about uncontrolled industrial growth weren't anti-science.

    Am I wrong here?

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    Re: That doesn't mean they are anti-science, as an essay suggested. Two meanings?

    I have nothing to add to what I have already said.

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    Re: That doesn't mean they are anti-science, as an essay suggested. Two meanings?

    I have something to add, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by cubezero3 View Post
    #2 US News & World Report didn't agree the said environmentalists were anti-science.
    If the above were the intended meaning, I would write the following:

    'However, as an essay in US News & World Report last May seemed to suggest, that surely does not mean environmentalists concerned about uncontrolled industrial growth are anti-science.'
    I am not a teacher.

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