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    #1

    Mommy and I's bed, me and Mommy's bed

    Child: This is my crib. I sleep here.

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    1. No, you don't. You always sleep on Mommy and I's bed now.
    2. No, you don't. You always sleep on me and mommy's bed now.

    Which is more natural?
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    #2

    Re: Mommy and I's bed, me and Mommy's bed

    Number 1 is not likely though I wouldn't be astonished to hear it. Number 2 is natural to large numbers of AmE speakers.

    Grammarians undoubtedly offer a solution to this problem, but I always stumble when I need to say something like that. Nothing seems both natural and "correct".
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    #3

    Re: Mommy and I's bed, me and Mommy's bed

    Can we say "you always sleep on mommy's and my bed" or "you always sleep on my and mommy's bed"?
    Please, correct all my mistakes. I should know English perfectly and if you show me my mistakes I will achieve my dream a little bit faster. A lot of thanks.

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    #4

    Re: Mommy and I's bed, me and Mommy's bed

    Yes, Boris — those are acceptable alternatives for the truly dreadful title versions.

    I have to endure it on a regular basis as a family friend thinks there's nothing wrong with I's. It makes me squirm every time she says it.

    It even surfaced in an episode of the TV series Elementary, when the scriptwriter gave Holmes a line to say including the awful sentence '...it wasn't part of Watson and I's remit...'

    To be fair to the actor, Jonny Lee Miller, he appeared to be aware that the punctilious Sherlock Holmes would never utter such a dreadful solecism and—clearly embarrassed about having to say it—mumbled the line uncharacteristically in an otherwise perfectly articulated performance. Unfortunately, it was plain for all to see in the subtitle (AE closed caption).
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    #5

    Re: Mommy and I's bed, me and Mommy's bed

    If you have two "other" people:
    Pat and Cameron's bed - the bed they share
    Pat's and Cameron's beds - each has their own bed

    But with one other person and yourself, they all sound awful. "Mommy's and my" is as close as you can come, but according to the "rules" that suggests Mommy has her own bed.

    All of us (I think) struggle with this, so you are in good company!
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    #6

    Re: Mommy and I's bed, me and Mommy's bed

    "You always sleep with Mommy and me" might be a way out. But it doesn't generalise to all other verbs, which might be your subtextual question.

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    Re: Mommy and I's bed, me and Mommy's bed

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    "You always sleep with Mommy and me" might be a way out. But it doesn't generalise to all other verbs, which might be your subtextual question.
    In a different thread (post number 7 and 8) I was advised to avoid using "sleep with" because of sexual connotations. I assume this time it doesn't apply here, right?
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    Re: Mommy and I's bed, me and Mommy's bed

    When talking to a young child who, in fact, sleeps in your bed sometimes, you can use that without fear.
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    Re: Mommy and I's bed, me and Mommy's bed

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    When talking to a young child who, in fact, sleeps in your bed sometimes, you can use that without fear.
    How about when talking about your young child? Should "sleep with" be avoided?

    How about when the young child talks about sleeping with you? Does it need to be corrected?
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    Re: Mommy and I's bed, me and Mommy's bed

    No and no.

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