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    people who(will) attend the party will have exams

    Hello, everyone.

    In the following sentence, which one is correct?

    People who will attend the party will have exams.

    People who attends the party will have exams.

    But, if you put simple present tense to express the future, it won't be ambiguous?

    e.g.: The girl who is/will be my girlfriend will take part in my party tomorrow.

    Thanks so much!

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    Re: people who(will) attend the party will have exams

    A big problem with your sentences is that they are not natural. For a start, we don't normally combine the idea of people going to parties and having exams, and we don't 'take part' in parties. We'd normally say 'my girlfriend', not 'the girl who is my girlfriend'.

    Let me make a more natural sentence to deal with the point I think you are asking about:


    Everybody who comes to my party tomorrow will get the chance to have a chat with Tom Hanks.

    In that sentence, we'd use 'comes', present tense, not 'will come'.

    Does that help?

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    Re: people who(will) attend the party will have exams

    Thanks so much for your kind help!

    But why we use "comes"?

    And in these two following sentences, how can I express?

    The girl who will be my girlfriend will help me cook.

    Students who doesn't feel better now can't take part in the exams tomorrow.

    Thanks so much!

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    Re: people who(will) attend the party will have exams

    The girl who will be my girlfriend will help me cook.
    This does not sound natural as it implies that you will try to get a girlfirend before you do your cooking.

    Students who doesn't don't feel better now can't take part in sit for the exams tomorrow.

    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: people who(will) attend the party will have exams

    Quote Originally Posted by MOYEEA LEE View Post
    The girl who will be my girlfriend will help me cook.
    My future girlfriend will help me cook.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: people who(will) attend the party will have exams

    Quote Originally Posted by MOYEEA LEE View Post

    But why do we use "comes"?
    !
    Everybody who comes to my party tomorrow will get the chance to have a chat with Tom Hanks.

    We generally use modals expressing a degree of futurity only in the main clause of a sentence:


    When you come to my party, you will meet TH.
    If you come to my party,
    you will meet TH.
    People who come to my party will meet TH.
    Whoever comes to my party will meet TH.

    Note:

    If you will [= are willing to] come to my party, you will meet TH.
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 11-Sep-2016 at 09:23.

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    Re: people who(will) attend the party will have exams

    Quote Originally Posted by MOYEEA LEE View Post
    The girl who is/will be my girlfriend will take part in my party tomorrow.
    My girlfriend will go to my party tomorrow.
    The one going to be my girlfriend will go to my party tomorrow.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #8

    Re: people who(will) attend the party will have exams

    Quite simply, we don't routinely use 'will' in two successive clauses like that. The first uses the present tense for the future.
    "If you come tomorrow, you will see something special."

    I guess you know that the present tense (usually progressive) can be used for the future?
    "I start school in January"; "I'm going to the movies tomorrow"; "I finish work today at 5pm".

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    Re: people who(will) attend the party will have exams

    Do you agree with the following statement?

    'We use the simple present to talk about future time with the strongest certainty.'── quoted from http://ell.stackexchange.com/questio...tomorrow/88983
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: people who(will) attend the party will have exams

    It certainly indicates, in some contexts, certainty. However 'will', 'be going to' and other ways of expressing the future can also indicate certainty. I would not say that the present simple necessarily indicates the strongest degree of certainty in all contexts.

    I have written of the present simple (here, section 3) in this way:

    The present simple is frequently used for situations that often or regularly happen. It can therefore be used for a future situation that is part of a regular series of happenings:
    The train for Berlin leaves at midnight tonight.
    It is also used for something that is seen as part of a fixed timetable:
    The sun rises at 07.34 tomorrow. (We can imagine the speaker thinking of a table of sunrise and sunset times.)
    Emma sees Luke tomorrow. (We can imagine the speaker mentally looking at Emma’s diary).

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