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    will lose/ will have lost

    Hello! Can you give me a piece of advice, please?
    Just have a look at the following:
    The portrait reminds him of the beauty he will have lost one day
    It comes from a summary of "The Portrait of Dorian Gray" I've found in the Internet;( I've modified it, the original sentence sounds like this: "Dorian curses his portrait, which he believes will one day remind him of the beauty he will have lost"). I'm wondering weather "will have lost" can be replaced by "will lose". I think both options are correct . Do you agree? Thanks a lot in advance!!!
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    Re: will lose/ will have lost

    Yes, but "will lose" does not quite evoke the same sense as "will have lost". It is hard to describe.

    "Will lose" feels distant. The loss is away in the mists of the future.

    "Will have lost" feels profound; poignant. For me, it carries the dread of a sure, painful loss. It is more visceral. A dread promise.

    Grammatically, you can exchange these phrases. Poetically, you should not, for it would diminish the emotion.

    In my opinion.

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    #3

    Re: will lose/ will have lost

    will have lost means: lost beauty before one day in the future

    will lose could mean: lost beauty after one day in the future

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    Re: will lose/ will have lost

    Thank you so much!!!
    As a matter of fact, this doubt has come to my mind because I helped a student sum up the novel and her (Italian) English teacher corrected "will have lost" with "will lose"...I do agree with you: both grammatically acceptable, little variation in meaning!!!! Thank you again!!!

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    Re: will lose/ will have lost

    Quote Originally Posted by dewedfrost View Post
    The portrait reminds him of the beauty he will have lost one day.

    It comes from a summary of "The Portrait of Dorian Gray." I 've found it in on the Internet. I've modified it, and the original sentence sounds like this: "Dorian curses his portrait which he believes will one day remind him of the beauty he will have lost." I'm wondering weather whether "will have lost" can be replaced by "will lose". I think both options are correct. Do you agree? Thanks a lot in advance!
    See corrections.

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    Re: will lose/ will have lost

    ...sorry for my mistakes...

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    Re: will lose/ will have lost

    Quote Originally Posted by dewedfrost View Post
    Thank you so much!!! ...both grammatically acceptable, little variation in meaning!!!! Thank you again!!!
    You're very welcome but please don't shout!!!!

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    Re: will lose/ will have lost

    Ok, I'll turn the volume down!

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