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    being killed/killed/having been killed

    Hello all :)

    Are all these sentences correct + do they make sense?


    A) Being killed by all the people, the mosquitos qucikly learnt to avoid the slapping hands.
    B) Killed by all the people, the mosquitos quickly learnt to avoid the slapping hands.
    C) Having been killed by the poeple, the mosquitos were smashed all over the walls and ceiling.
    D) Killed by the people, the mosquitos were smashed all over the walls and ceiling.

    Thank you very much.
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    The first two are impossible. Dead mosquitoes can't learn anything.

    C and D are highly unlikely. They give the impression that people collected dead mosquitoes and smashed them all over the walls and ceiling.

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    #3

    Re: being killed/killed/having been killed

    Do C and D mean exactly the same? D is just shorter?

    I thought that "being" in A emphasizes the continuous aspect - while they were being killed.



    Let me try again:

    1)

    Being bothered by the police, he was desperately trying to remember who could help him.

    2)
    Bothered by the police, he was desperately trying to remember who could help him.

    3)
    Having been bothered by the police for half an hour, he was relieved to finally go home.

    4)
    Bothered by the police for half an hour, he was relieved to finally go home.


    Are these sentences better?

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    Re: being killed/killed/having been killed

    Those are all unnatural, mainly because people aren't generally "bothered" by the police. What are the police doing? Are they harassing someone? Are they simply doing their job?

    I think I can see what you're trying to do but you're choosing verbs that don't work, or contexts that don't work for those verbs.

    Unfazed by his failures, John continued trying to invent a machine to create gold from chocolate.
    Baffled by her constant rejection, Dave finally gave up trying to get Tina to go on a date with him.
    Fuelled by the thought of winning £1,000,000, Hannah bought a lottery ticket every week, even when she couldn't afford it.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Unfazed by his failures, John continued trying to invent a machine to create gold from chocolate.
    John strikes me as highly impractical. Why didn't he invent a machine to make India ink out of ordinary dog biscuits? Now that​ would be useful!
    I am not a teacher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominik92 View Post
    A) Being killed by all the people, the mosquitos qucikly learnt to avoid the slapping hands.
    B) Killed by all the people, the mosquitos quickly learnt to avoid the slapping hands.
    C) Having been killed by the poeple, the mosquitos were smashed all over the walls and ceiling.
    D) Killed by the people, the mosquitos were smashed all over the walls and ceiling.
    A) While I would question the ability of a mosquito to learn, the sentence is okay.
    B) This doesn't work. The mosquitos are dead. They can't do anything (except maybe decorate the walls with their squished bodies).
    C) and D) are OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinaDan View Post
    A) While I would question the ability of a mosquito to learn, the sentence is okay.
    C) and D) are OK.
    Can you honestly imagine a native speaker producing these sentences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    Can you honestly imagine a native speaker producing these sentences?
    They would not be what I'd use in normal conversation, but in certain written texts, sure. "A" is illogical insofar as mosquitos learning anything is concerned, but that doesn't disqualify it as something a native speaker would say. "C" is very close to something I might have actually said on occasion after going on a rampage of killing mosquitos by hand; it well describes a scenario I have seen many times.

    I really don't see why you are excited about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinaDan View Post
    "C" is very close to something I might have actually said on occasion after going on a rampage of killing mosquitos by hand;
    I wouldn't say "Having been killed by me, the mosquitoes were smashed all over the walls and ceiling", but if you would, fine.
    I really don't see why you are excited about this.
    The idea of the forums is to discuss people's questions about English, not my state of excitement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    I wouldn't say "Having been killed by me, the mosquitoes were smashed all over the walls and ceiling", but if you would, fine.


    Please review; I said I'd say something very close, not verbatim.

    The idea of the forums is to discuss people's questions about English, not my state of excitement.
    I'm not asking about your state of excitement; I assure you it holds no interest for me. I am questioning why you are challenging my favor towards the OP's sentence.

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