Results 1 to 9 of 9
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Turkish
      • Home Country:
      • Iran
      • Current Location:
      • Iran

    • Join Date: Jan 2016
    • Posts: 153
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #1

    Question Difference between slang and expression

    Hi,

    According to the following definition of slang, it's been considered to be expression. So what is the difference between slang and expression?


    Slang words are expressions that only certain groups of people use and understand.


    For example, if we assume that ONLY English-speaking Muslims use "I beg you to pray" (I am not sure if this English equivalent is used by them, but this is a direct translation from Persian), can we claim that this is a slang? or is it an expression of that specific sub-group?, and why is it so?

  1. Piscean's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • Czech Republic
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic

    • Join Date: Jul 2015
    • Posts: 6,557
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #2

    Re: Difference between slang and expression

    Quote Originally Posted by Venus.jam View Post
    Hi,According to the following definition of slang, it's been considered to be expression. So what is the difference between slang and expression?

    Slang words are expressions that only certain groups of people use and understand.
    That is not a good definition. Words are not expressions. Even if it were sound, it is the words, not 'slang' that are defined as 'expressions'.

    For example, if we assume that ONLY English-speaking Muslims use "I beg you to pray" (I am not sure if this English equivalent is used by them, but this is a direct translation from Persian), can we claim that this is a slang? or is it an expression of that specific sub-group?, and why is it so?
    It is not 'a slang'. 'Slang' is uncountable. And 'I beg you to pray' is not slang. Slang is generally considered to be inferior in some way to standard language, so we would not use it for the formulaic expressions used by religious groups. IF 'I beg you to pray' were used, we would probably refer to it as a formulaic expression. It's pointless to say any more about that formulaic expression, because we have no evidence that it is used.
    Last edited by Piscean; 13-Oct-2016 at 13:10. Reason: typo

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Turkish
      • Home Country:
      • Iran
      • Current Location:
      • Iran

    • Join Date: Jan 2016
    • Posts: 153
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #3

    Re: Difference between slang and expression

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    That is not a good definition. Words are not expressions. Even if it were sound, it is the words, not 'slang' that are defined as 'expressions'. It is not 'a slang'. 'Slang' is uncountabble. And 'I beg you to pray' is not slang. Slang is generally considered to be inferior in some way to standard language, so we would not use it for the formulaic expressions used by religious groups. IF 'I beg you to pray' were used, we would probably refer to it as a formulaic expression. It's pointless to say any more about that formulaic expression, because we have no evidence that it is used.

    Do you mean that words (taken together) are expressions?, but not slang?
    I think you meant to say "slang is not expression" but you've said "Words are not expressions". Then, you've continued "it is the words, not 'slang' that are defined as 'expressions'


  2. Piscean's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • Czech Republic
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic

    • Join Date: Jul 2015
    • Posts: 6,557
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #4

    Re: Difference between slang and expression

    Quote Originally Posted by Venus.jam View Post
    Do you mean that words (taken together) are expressions?, but not slang?
    I am not sure what you are asking here.
    I think you meant to say "slang is not expression" but you've said "Words are not expressions". Then, you've continued "it is the words, not 'slang' that are defined as 'expressions'
    I wrote what I intended to write. Words are not expressions but, in the sentence I quoted, they were defined as expressions.

    Actually single words can sometimes be expressions. For example. 'Damn!' may be referred to as an expression of annoyance.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Turkish
      • Home Country:
      • Iran
      • Current Location:
      • Iran

    • Join Date: Jan 2016
    • Posts: 153
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #5

    Re: Difference between slang and expression

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    I am not sure what you are asking here.I wrote what I intended to write. Words are not expressions but, in the sentence I quoted, they were defined as expressions.

    Actually single words can sometimes be expressions. For example. 'Damn!' may be referred to as an expression of annoyance.

    I see. but, the definition that I've posted here defines "slang words" not just words!

  3. Piscean's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • Czech Republic
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic

    • Join Date: Jul 2015
    • Posts: 6,557
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #6

    Re: Difference between slang and expression

    Generally speaking, words are not expressions. That means any kind of words, including slang words.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Turkish
      • Home Country:
      • Iran
      • Current Location:
      • Iran

    • Join Date: Jan 2016
    • Posts: 153
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #7

    Re: Difference between slang and expression

    Quote Originally Posted by Venus.jam View Post
    Do you mean that words (taken together) are expressions?, but not slang?
    I think you meant to say "slang is not expression" but you've said "Words are not expressions". Then, you've continued "it is the words, not 'slang' that are defined as 'expressions'

    I see. So it'd be better to refer to "slang" as the inferior type of language.

  4. Piscean's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • Czech Republic
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic

    • Join Date: Jul 2015
    • Posts: 6,557
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #8

    Re: Difference between slang and expression

    I have just dealt with that point.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States

    • Join Date: Dec 2015
    • Posts: 3,827
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #9

    Re: Difference between slang and expression

    Quote Originally Posted by Venus.jam View Post
    I see. So it'd be better to refer to "slang" as the inferior type of language.
    "Lower-register" or "less formal" are neutral ways to describe it. Queen Elizabeth may consider slang inferior to her version of English; if so, the rest of the world doesn't have to agree. The winner of the Nobel Prize for literature announced yesterday used lots of slang in his work.
    I am not a teacher.

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 10
    Last Post: 06-Apr-2013, 23:55
  2. Slang swear expression
    By Brazilian_gal in forum English Slang
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 13-May-2012, 13:23
  3. slang expression
    By Ceit in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 09-May-2009, 18:36
  4. difference between `slang and colloquial'
    By viet_ghat in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 06-Feb-2007, 10:28
  5. What is the difference between Idiom & Slang?
    By Mad-ox in forum English Idioms and Sayings
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 30-Aug-2006, 21:25

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •