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    the/a son of a farmer

    Dear teachers,

    I know we can say: " the son of a farmer" to refer to the son

    But if the farmer just have one son,

    can I say:

    a son of a farmer?

    Thanks a lot!

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    #2

    Re: the/a son of a farmer

    Quote Originally Posted by MOYEEA LEE View Post
    a son of a farmer
    I think the indefinite article denotes that the farmer has more than one son.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: the/a son of a farmer

    Matthew is right. There is also the point that we'd rarely say 'a son of a farmer'; we'd say 'a farmer's son'

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    Re: the/a son of a farmer

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    Matthew is right. There is also the point that we'd rarely say 'a son of a farmer'; we'd say 'a farmer's son'
    And it is the same with "a car of a business man" right?
    It just make sense if you say: "the car of a business man" or "a car of a business man's"

    But if we say:
    a photo of my grandma (here "of " is not talking about belongings, it means " about ", right?)

    And "a car of his own", does this one imply the man has at least two cars?

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    Re: the/a son of a farmer

    Quote Originally Posted by MOYEEA LEE View Post
    And it is the same with "a car of a business man" right?
    It just make sense if you say: "the car of a business man" or "a car of a business man's"
    None of these is natural. If we need to say it, we say 'a businessman's car'.
    a photo of my grandma (here "of " is not talking about belongings, it means " about ", right?)
    Not really. 'A photo of my grandma' means that your grandma is shown in the phote. It is not 'about her'.
    And "a car of his own", does this one imply the man has at least two cars?
    No.

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    Re: the/a son of a farmer

    I think 'a car of his own' means 'a car belonging to him', which denotes that he has a car; that does not denote he has more than one car.

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    'A photo of my grandma' means that your grandma is shown in
    the phote. It is not 'about her'.
    When he wrote 'about her', he was thinking about 'showing her'.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: the/a son of a farmer

    Possibly, but we simply don't say 'about her'.

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    #8

    Re: the/a son of a farmer

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    Possibly, but we simply don't say 'about her'.

    But why can't we say
    the car of our king, the son of the god
    Besides, if the modifier is too long,
    can we say:
    an opinion of the chairman appointed a month ago. (Does this one imply the chairman has many opinions?)

    Thanks a lot!

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    Re: the/a son of a farmer

    Quote Originally Posted by MOYEEA LEE View Post
    But why can't we say the car of our king, the son of the god
    We can. It's just that we normally don't.
    Besides, if the modifier is too long, can we say: an opinion of the chairman appointed a month ago?
    Yes
    (Does this one imply the chairman has many opinions?)
    Not really.

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    #10

    Re: the/a son of a farmer

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    We can. It's just that we normally don't.

    Yes
    Not really.
    I also looked up for some information.

    I saw phrases like: “ the smell of it."

    But is it true that normally we don't use objective cases of personal pronouns,

    like:

    the smell of me, the arrival of him

    Thanks a lot!

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