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    How to write [mɪəɑ:'vg]

    Hello,
    I don't know how to write my suffix at the end of my last name.

    It's pronounced as => [mɪəɑ:'vg]

    Miavag
    Meeavagh
    Meeyavagh
    Miyavag

    It's name of a village in Iran. I don't know how to write the blue phonetic.
    In Wikipedi it's written [Miavaq] but I think it's wrong. Because "q" should be "g".
    Not sure.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miavaq

    Can you help me please?

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    Re: How to write [mɪəɑ:'vg]

    Miavag would be a good way to represent the IPA you've written.

    Is the village's name pronounced differently in Persian than it is in the local language? Perhaps the variant ending in q is the Persian pronunciation.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: How to write [mɪəɑ:'vg]

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Perhaps the variant ending in q is the Persian pronunciation.
    No not at all. We pronounce the last letter as "g" in "frog".
    Not "q".

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    Re: How to write [mɪəɑ:'vg]

    Quote Originally Posted by xiaoen View Post
    No not at all. We pronounce the last letter as "g" in "frog".
    Not "q".
    Do you close the throat at the end?

    If you can post an audio clip demonstrating the pronunciation, alone and followed by words beginning with a vowel and with a consonant, forum members can tell you how they hear the name and suggest anglicized transcriptions.
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    Re: How to write [mɪəɑ:'vg]

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Do you close the throat at the end?

    If you can post an audio clip demonstrating the pronunciation, alone and followed by words beginning with a vowel and with a consonant, forum members can tell you how they hear the name and suggest anglicized transcriptions.
    Untitled.wma

    I recorder my voice. You can hear.

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    Re: How to write [mɪəɑ:'vg]

    I think the recording cut off before the end. What I can hear sounds like "myov".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: How to write [mɪəɑ:'vg]

    Quote Originally Posted by xiaoen View Post
    Untitled.wma

    I recorder my voice. You can hear.
    Thanks. The final consonant I hear is the one commonly represented by q in transcription, a voiceless uvular stop. That consonant doesn't exist in English. The final consonant in "frog" is g, a voiced velar stop.
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    Re: How to write [mɪəɑ:'vg]

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Thanks. The final consonant I hear is the one commonly represented by q in transcription, a voiceless uvular stop. That consonant doesn't exist in English. The final consonant in "frog" is g, a voiced velar stop.
    Wow, thank you so much.

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    Re: How to write [mɪəɑ:'vg]

    And, do you have such an example in English?
    I mean words like "Miavaq" that "q" looks like "g" when pronounced.

    Do you know such an example?

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    Re: How to write [mɪəɑ:'vg]

    Quote Originally Posted by xiaoen View Post
    And, do you have such an example in English?
    I mean words like "Miavaq" that "q" looks like "g" when pronounced.

    Do you know such an example?
    I heard a q at the end of Miavaq. It didn't sound like a g. Most Anglophones would hear it as a k, but I have experience pronouncing and hearing the q sound in Arabic; with that experience, I can perceive this consonant which most Anglophones probably can't.
    Last edited by GoesStation; 19-Nov-2016 at 22:58. Reason: To amplify a little.
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