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    Preposition ‘beyond’ usage

    I’ve been told by a non-native speaker, that the preposition ‘beyond’ is appropriate in the sentences like:
    Sorry, but to help you is beyond my power.
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    It’s beyond my comprehension …

    But the sentences like:
    Beyond the river, cattle were grazing.
    The sea is beyond that big hill.
    are unnatural and rarely used by native speakers.
    Is it true?
    Last edited by northpath; 22-Nov-2016 at 08:25.

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    Re: Preposition ‘beyond’ usage

    I wouldn't say they're unnatural but I feel they're more likely to be seen in literature rather than heard in everyday speech.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Preposition ‘beyond’ usage

    Ok, here the situation: I come up to a river and see a huge herd of cows grazing beyond the river. My girlfriend phones me and asks, “What do you see”? What should I say so that it does not sound bookish? I have now idea but: “I see a beautiful river and cattle grazing beyond it.
    And what about the sentence: “They knew that beyond the border was freedom.” Is it bookish?
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    Re: Preposition ‘beyond’ usage

    It would depend on how far away things were. If the river were close, I'd probably say "I can see a river, and there are some cattle grazing on the other side". If the river were some distance away, I might say "I can see a river, and beyond that there are some cattle grazing".

    I'd use 'on the other side of' in your second sentence. 'Beyond' suggests to me some distance behind the border.

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    #5

    Re: Preposition ‘beyond’ usage

    Ok. What about the sentence: “We saw a beautiful valley and some cattle grazing beyond a river.
    Or
    In the distance some cattle were grazing beyond a river.”
    Last edited by northpath; 22-Nov-2016 at 10:51.

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    #6

    Re: Preposition ‘beyond’ usage

    "Beyond" is OK in AusE. They sound natural enough.
    "It's beyond me!" is a common idiom meaning something similar to your first two examples.

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    #7

    Re: Preposition ‘beyond’ usage

    Past the border, the river, etc. would be more natural in conversational AmE.
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