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    About tenses

    hi ,
    my question is about the sentences which have more than 1 verb like the following which i saw in a script of " You've got mail " movie
    1- You've deluded yourself that you're a
    benefactor bringing books to the masses.
    2- They think she was fine. -- a dead woman .
    3- They think her store
    was something special.

    shouldn't 1 be " You've deluded yourself that you were a
    benefactor brought books to the masses." or " that you have been a
    benefactor has brought books to the masses.
    i am saying that because the first verb " deluded " is in the past(present perfect), so should not all upcoming verbs be in the same tense?

    2- should not it be " they thought she was fine . "
    3- should not it be " they thought her store was something special . "

    is it depending on the context , or is it alright in any case or what ?
    btw: i heard him says " i heard that you were sick " not " you are sick " .

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    Re: About tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Eslam Elbyaly View Post
    Hi.
    My question is about the sentences which have more than one verb, like the following which I saw in a the script of "You've Got Mail" (a movie).

    1- You've deluded yourself that you're a benefactor bringing books to the masses.
    2- They think she was fine. -- a dead woman.
    3- They think her store was something special.

    Shouldn't 1 be "You've deluded yourself that you were a benefactor brought books to the masses" or "... that you have been a
    benefactor has brought books to the masses"?
    I am saying that because the first verb "deluded" is in the past space required here (present perfect), so should not all upcoming verbs be in the same tense?

    2- Shouldn't not it be "They thought she was fine"?
    3- Shouldn't not it be "They thought her store was something special?"

    Is it depending dependant on the context , or is it alright all right? in any case or what ?
    btw By the way, I heard him says "I heard that you were sick" not "you are sick".
    Welcome to the forum.

    First, please note my corrections above. It's important to follow these rules of written English at all times:

    - Start every sentence with a capital letter.
    - End every sentence with one, appropriate punctuation mark.
    - Always capitalise the word "I".
    - Do not put a space before a comma, full stop, question mark or exclamation mark.
    - Always put a space after a comma, full stop, question mark or exclamation mark.
    - Do not put a space after opening quotation marks or after an opening bracket.
    - Do not put a space before closing quotation marks or before a closing bracket.

    Sentence 1 was correct in the first place. If you add "who was" before "bringing books", can you see how it works?
    Sentence 2 is correct because the people involved still think (present tense) that she was (past tense) a good woman.
    Sentence 3 is correct for the same reason.

    Has someone told you that all the tenses in a sentence should be the same as the first one used? If so, they were wrong.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: About tenses

    Thanks for the notable corrections.
    So, I think you mean that it depends on the context?
    Then why he said "I heard that you were sick", although she was sick at the moment he said the sentence, I mean "She is still sick"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eslam Elbyaly View Post
    Then why he said did he say "I heard that you were sick", although she was sick at the moment he said the sentence? I mean "She is still sick".
    In reported speech, either 'is' or 'were' is correct if she is still sick.

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    Re: About tenses

    Both "I heard you were sick" and "I heard you are sick" could be used if, for example, you telephoned someone who is currently absent from school/work due to illness.

    (Cross-posted with Rover)
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: About tenses

    I read about Report Speech in this link, if any one want to review.
    https://www.ego4u.com/en/cram-up/gra...ech/statements

    Thanks to all of you.

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    It's "reported speech" (no capital letters). It should be "anyone" in your sentence.

    The information on that particular page looks OK but I had a look at another page of the site and found that they used "a questions mark" several times, and suggested that "What a chaos!" is an acceptable exclamation. I wouldn't be too quick to trust the advice on that site.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    They say on that page You must change the tense if the introductory clause is in Simple Past ( e.g., He said).

    It is simply not true that you must always change the tense.

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    Missed that.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: About tenses

    Is there a trusted free reference I can study English grammar on the Internet?
    Last edited by Eslam Elbyaly; 29-Nov-2016 at 07:48.

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