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    Lightbulb Looking for term

    Ok this has been on my mind for quite sometime.
    Say there's a a dichotomous decision to be made (smoking or not smoking, democratic or republican, etc). I'm trying to find the term for suggesting or marketing an product or idea by making a weak case for the opposite. Does this make sense?

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    #2

    Re: Looking for term

    I don't know an exact term, but it is a kind of poisoning the well.

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    Re: Looking for term

    Quote Originally Posted by nschlabaugh View Post
    Ok OK/Okay, this has been on my mind for quite sometime some time.
    Say there's a a dichotomous decision to be made (smoking or not smoking, democratic or republican, etc). I'm trying to find the term for suggesting or marketing an a product or idea by making a weak case for the opposite. Does this make sense?
    Welcome to the forum.

    Note my corrections above. You can write "OK" or "okay", but not "Ok". At the beginning of a sentence, "okay" would become "Okay".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #4

    Re: Looking for term

    Using reverse psychology?
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    Re: Looking for term

    I originally thought the term was reverse marketing but that's not quite right. I'm talking about presenting something so dissuasive, that it makes a good case for its opposite, e.g. a quit-smoking ad that's so corny it actually encourages kids to smoke.

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    Re: Looking for term

    In the specific case of smoking, I know that the term vaccination has been used when tobacco companies do this or launch a product meant to help people quit that doesn't work well so they stay on the cigarettes. I don't know if it is used elsewhere.

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    #7

    Re: Looking for term

    More like if something has a backwards effect.

    Like running an ad for Hillary that makes people want to vote for Trump.

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    It's called damning with faint praise.
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    Re: Looking for term

    I wouldn't use "damning with/by faint praise" in this particular scenario. It would work in something like:

    A: What do you think of the new guy at work?
    B: Well, he's nicer than Donald Trump.
    A: Wow. Damned by faint praise!

    For me, it's used to make a comparison in which the person/thing you're comparing with doesn't really require a high standard in order to be better that him/her/it.
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    Re: Looking for term

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I wouldn't use "damning with/by faint praise" in this particular scenario. . . .
    I would. See:

    Damn with faint praise

    That sounds to me like exactly what the poster wants to do: discredit a competitor by giving its product a milquetoast compliment.

    No?
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