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    ou look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago - the maning of "for"

    Hello!

    One person wrote: "You look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago. I hate how so many people body shame mothers. We literally have done the most amazing thing.


    Does "You look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago" mean "You look very good despite having given birth to a baby 4 months ago" or "You look very good despite that fact that you gave birth to a baby 4 months ago"?

    Do you confirm that "for" in this sentence means "despite having given ....." or "despite the fact that ......"?

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    Re: ou look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago - the maning of "for"

    In this case, for simply means due to, causally... the contrastive element (despite) is implied by context alone.

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    Re: ou look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago - the maning of "for"

    Do you mean "for" because of or as a result of something:

    I'm feeling all the better for my holiday. = I'm feeling better and especially well because of my holiday.
    "How are you?" "Fine, and all the better for seeing you!" = "How are you?" "Fine, and especially well because of seeing you!"

    If we go along these lines, "You look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago" means "You look very good especially because of you having given birth to a baby", which means "Your having given birth to a baby has been conducive to your feeling very good. Do you agree with me?

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    Re: ou look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago - the maning of "for"

    Quote Originally Posted by JACEK1 View Post
    If we go along these lines, "You look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago" means "You look very good especially because of you having given birth to a baby", which means "Your having given birth to a baby has been conducive to your feeling very good. Do you agree with me?
    No. It means despite. The speaker is impressed that the new mother has lost most of the weight she gained during her pregnancy.
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    Re: ou look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago - the maning of "for"

    Quote Originally Posted by JACEK1 View Post

    Does "You look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago" mean "You look very good despite having given birth to a baby 4 months ago" or "You look very good despite that fact that you gave birth to a baby 4 months ago"?

    Do you confirm that "for" in this sentence means "despite having given ....." or "despite the fact that ......"?
    I don't see the distinction you're trying to create - they mean the same thing.

    The woman had a baby four months ago. Pregnancy is physically demanding on a woman's body. There is often a stigma associated with those changes (wrongly in my opinion, but such is society), especially the weight gain.

    The statement is a compliment that even though she may still have some of those physical changes visible, considering that she only had the baby four months ago, the mother is "looking good" in regards to her physique.
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    Re: ou look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago - the maning of "for"

    I think you're right that it means 'despite' not just because I am of such an opinion but a few members are also of such an opinion. Why should we stick to the meaning of "because". I don't understand that. I don't want to find fault with 'I don't see the distinction you're trying to create - they mean the same thing' but should a mother look very nice because of giving birth to a baby?

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    Re: ou look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago - the maning of "for"

    Because absolutely doesn't fit there.
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    Re: ou look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago - the maning of "for"

    I couldn't agree more. "considering" might apply, I think.

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    Re: ou look damn good for having a baby 4 months ago - the maning of "for"

    Yes, that works.
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