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    Smile Present Perfect , since... for ....

    Hi,can anybody help me?

    With Non-Continuous Verbs and non-continuous uses of Mixed Verbs, we use the Present Perfect to show that something started in the past and has continued up until now, the words "live," "work," "teach," and "study" are sometimes used in this way even though they are NOT Non-Continuous Verbs.. "For five minutes," "for two weeks," and "since Tuesday" are all durations which can be used with the Present Perfect.

    So I can't understand why do we use this tense here? These verbs(phoned,lasted,existed) aren't non-cotinuous verbs.

    He has phoned me twice since my birthday.
    The rains have lasted for three months.
    This problem has existed since the beginning of the century.

    Thank you!

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    Re: Present Perfect , since... for ....

    I don't understand your post well enough to answer directly. All three of your sentences are good examples of present perfect.

    Instead of 'non-continuous', I prefer to say 'stative', which I think is a better term.

    In the first, phoned is not stative. It is an action, which in this case happened twice within the timeframe.

    In the second, lasted is stative (but of a special type, I think). It does not itself describe an action but rather a state of continuity, of an action. The rain is the action.

    In the third, existed is stative. It refers to a state of existence.

    When we use the present perfect, it's not really the verb that starts in the past and continues until now, but rather the timeframe within which the verb, whether stative or dynamic, happens.

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    Re: Present Perfect , since... for ....

    Also, the present perfect is used in the quoted sentences because what has happened in them up to now has not necessarily finished.

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