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    Future perfect vs future simple : By the time

    What is the difference in meaning conveyed by these sentences:

    By the time the tarmac is renewed, the airport will have organized no flights.
    By the time the tarmac is renewed, the airport will organize no flights.

    Are they both legible?

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    Re: Future perfect vs future simple : By the time

    They're both legible ("able to be read") but neither is natural. Can you express the thought in different words? Is this a private airport which organizes its own flights? (Most airports provide services for aircraft; flights are organized by the aircrafts' owners.)
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    Re: Future perfect vs future simple : By the time

    What I mean is that no planes will start from this airport.

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    Re: Future perfect vs future simple : By the time

    You have chosen an unnatural way to express this thought.We are far more likely to say something like:

    There will be no flights from the airport until the tarmac is renewed.

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    Re: Future perfect vs future simple : By the time

    Or, in American English, until the ramps are resurfaced. "Tarmac" is very often used in place of the purist's choice, ramp, so you might see the tautologous ​until the tarmac is resurfaced.
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    Re: Future perfect vs future simple : By the time

    Quote Originally Posted by ChessEnthusiast View Post
    What is the difference in meaning conveyed by these sentences:

    By the time the tarmac is renewed, the airport will have organized no flights.
    By the time the tarmac is renewed, the airport will organize no flights.
    To me, the first sentence implies that no organization of flights by the airport will take place between now and the time the tarmac is renewed (cf. The airport won't have organized any flights by then), and the second that the airport will discontinue organizing flights by that time: it organizes them now, but by that time it won't.

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    Re: Future perfect vs future simple : By the time

    Neither sentence works. If you mean that the airport will stop organizing flights before the tarmac has been renewed, then say that. One does wonder why they are having the tarmac renewed if they are going to stop organizing flights.

    I suspect that you mean The airport will organize no more flights until the tarmac has been renewed.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 15-Jan-2017 at 16:38. Reason: Fixed typo

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    Re: Future perfect vs future simple : By the time

    Neither sentence works.
    Neither works, but each has a distinct meaning, different from the meaning of the other.

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