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    The London underground is the oldest system, having opened in 1863.

    Is the "A" sentence reduced to the "B" one correctly?

    A : "The London underground is the oldest system, having opened in 1863."



    B :"It is the oldest system, since(because) the London underground had opened in 1863."

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    #2

    Re: Adverbial Reduction

    The A sentence is fine. The B sentence is incorrect.

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    #3

    Re: The London underground is the oldest system, having opened in 1863.

    Nininaz, I have changed your thread title. Please remember that titles should include some/all of the words and phrases you are querying. Each title should be unique to the thread.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Adverbial Reduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    The A sentence is fine. The B sentence is incorrect.
    As you know the sentence A is the reduced form of adverb clause . I just want to know what the original sentence was ?How the original sentence was reduced to form the “A” sentence? How the original sentence would be like before reducing to the "The London underground is the oldest system, having opened in 1863."?
    Thanks.
    Last edited by nininaz; 23-Jan-2017 at 13:43.

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    Re: Adverbial Reduction

    Quote Originally Posted by nininaz View Post
    As you know sentence A is the reduced form of sentence B.
    I don't know that. Sentence A is a complete sentence in its own right. I don't see it as a reduced form of anything.

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    #6

    Re: Adverbial Reduction

    Quote Originally Posted by nininaz View Post
    As you know,(Inappropriate. I know nothing of the sort.)

    Sentence A is the reduced form of sentence B. I just want to know what the original sentence was. How ​was it was reduced to the form “A”? How It would be What would it have been like before reducing it was reduced to "A"?
    Thanks.
    Since sentence B is ungrammatical, it's impossible to reduce it.
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 23-Jan-2017 at 18:55.
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    Re: Adverbial Reduction

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Since sentence B is ungrammatical, it's impossible to reduce it.
    I changed it to the following

    As you know the sentence
    A is the reduced form of adverb clause . I just want to know what the original sentence was ?How the original sentence was reduced to form the “A” sentence? How the original sentence would be like before reducing to the "The London underground is the oldest system, having opened in 1863."?
    Thanks.

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    Re: Adverbial Reduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    I don't know that. Sentence A is a complete sentence in its own right. I don't see it as a reduced form of anything.
    I changed it to the following

    As you know the sentence
    A is the reduced form of adverb clause . I just want to know what the original sentence was ?How the original sentence was reduced to form the “A” sentence? How the original sentence would be like before reducing to the "The London underground is the oldest system, having opened in 1863."?

    AND

    "having opened in 1863." is not the reduced form of adverb clause? Isn't it "adverb phrase" instead of 'adverb clause'?
    Last edited by nininaz; 23-Jan-2017 at 14:16.

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    #9

    Re: Adverbial Reduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    I don't know that. Sentence A is a complete sentence in its own right. I don't see it as a reduced form of anything.
    I am trying to googling it . I finally found the following link:
    Do the following link answer my question?It is phrase not reduced adverb clause.
    http://www.macmillandictionary.com/d...ng-having-been

    It indicated the order of events as follow:

    The construction having + past participle, called the perfect participle is used to show what happens first before something else happens.

    "Having taken the town, the troops began looting the shops."

    First they took the town, then they started looting.

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    Re: Adverbial Reduction

    Also answered here.

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