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    Use of 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause

    Is it okay to use 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause in Simple Past Tense in order to put more emphasis?

    The actor who was chosen for the role is looking for a suitable costume now
    The actor chosen for the role is looking for a suitable costume now
    Is this reeduction true? : The actor having been chosen for the role is looking for a suitable costume now (more emphasis on the action of 'being chosen' ?)

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    #2

    Re: Use of 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause

    Quote Originally Posted by adrenalinman View Post
    The actor having been chosen for the role is looking for a suitable costume now
    That doesn't work. This does:

    Having been chosen for the role, the actor is looking for a suitable costume now.

    This can suggest that he is looking for a suitable result as a consequence of having been chosen for the role.

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    Re: Use of 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause

    Don't capitalize grammatical terms and tenses. They aren't proper nouns.

    Ask whether something is correct. "True" does not mean "correct".

    Here's a correction of the last part of your post:

    Is this reduction (with more emphasis on the action of 'being chosen') correct? (No colon here.) "The actor having been chosen for the role is looking for a suitable costume now."
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    #4

    Re: Use of 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause

    ...and in both sentences you need a full stop (period) after 'now'.

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    #5

    Re: Use of 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause

    I see that 'Having been chosen for the role, the actor is looking for a suitable costume now.' sounds much better.
    ...but I still need a definite answer for this 'We can never use 'having been +v3' for the reduction of passive relative clause in simple past tense?'
    Why I am confused is that I know we can use 'having+v3' for the reduction of some active relative clauses in simple past tense (if there are two different tense forms (past and present) inn the same sentence, for example)

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    #6

    Re: Use of 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause

    and what about these sentences? are they correct?

    The singers who have been selected for the contest are going to rehearse today.
    The singers having been selected for the contest are going to rehearse today.

    Only the contestants who had been considered adequate enough got the right to compete in the finals.
    Only the contestants having been considered adequate enough got the right to compete in the finals.

    Can you make a full explanation about where to use 'having been+v3' ? can we say 'whenever we use present perfect or past perfect' ?
    Last edited by adrenalinman; 03-Feb-2017 at 05:31. Reason: forgeting full stop again :)

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    Re: Use of 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause

    Quote Originally Posted by adrenalinman View Post
    and what about these sentences? are they correct?

    The singers who have been selected for the contest are going to rehearse today.
    The singers, having been selected for the contest, are going to rehearse today. ​(Odd style but grammatically correct if you add the commas.)

    Only the contestants who had been considered adequate enough got the right to compete in the finals.
    Only the contestants having been considered adequate enough got the right to compete in the finals.

    Can you make a full explanation about where to use 'having been+v3' ? can we say 'whenever we use present perfect or past perfect' ?
    See my marks above. I have no idea what "v3" means so I'm afraid I can't explain its use.
    Last edited by GoesStation; 03-Feb-2017 at 20:35. Reason: To strike out a word in the corrected quotation.
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    Re: Use of 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    I have no idea what "v3" means so I'm afraid I can't explain its use.
    Third form (or past participle form) of the verb.

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    #9

    Re: Use of 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause

    I have a car that was made in Japan.
    I have a car made in Japan.

    Saying I have a car having been made in Japan instead sounds strange to me.

    The "having been" part is understood, in my opinion.

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    Re: Use of 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    I have a car that was made in Japan.
    I have a car made in Japan.

    Saying I have a car having been made in Japan instead sounds strange to me.

    The "having been" part is understood, in my opinion.
    If anything, we understand an unspoken "that was". Having been​ doesn't fit there.
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