[Grammar] Use of 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause

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Is it okay to use 'Having been+v3' as the reduction of Passive Relative Clause in Simple Past Tense in order to put more emphasis?

The actor who was chosen for the role is looking for a suitable costume now
The actor chosen for the role is looking for a suitable costume now
Is this reeduction true? : The actor having been chosen for the role is looking for a suitable costume now (more emphasis on the action of 'being chosen' ?)
 

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Don't capitalize grammatical terms and tenses. They aren't proper nouns.

Ask whether something is correct. "True" does not mean "correct".

Here's a correction of the last part of your post:

Is this reduction (with more emphasis on the action of 'being chosen') correct? (No colon here.) "The actor having been chosen for the role is looking for a suitable costume now."
 

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...and in both sentences you need a full stop (period) after 'now'.
 

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I see that 'Having been chosen for the role, the actor is looking for a suitable costume now.' sounds much better.
...but I still need a definite answer for this 'We can never use 'having been +v3' for the reduction of passive relative clause in simple past tense?'
Why I am confused is that I know we can use 'having+v3' for the reduction of some active relative clauses in simple past tense (if there are two different tense forms (past and present) inn the same sentence, for example)
 

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and what about these sentences? are they correct?

The singers who have been selected for the contest are going to rehearse today.
The singers having been selected for the contest are going to rehearse today.

Only the contestants who had been considered adequate enough got the right to compete in the finals.
Only the contestants having been considered adequate enough got the right to compete in the finals.

Can you make a full explanation about where to use 'having been+v3' ? can we say 'whenever we use present perfect or past perfect' ?
 
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and what about these sentences? are they correct?

The singers who have been selected for the contest are going to rehearse today.:tick:
The singers, having been selected for the contest, are going to rehearse today. ​(Odd style but grammatically correct if you add the commas.)

Only the contestants who had been considered adequate [STRIKE]enough[/STRIKE] got the right to compete in the finals.:tick:
Only the contestants having been considered adequate enough got the right to compete in the finals.:cross:

Can you make a full explanation about where to use 'having been+v3' ? can we say 'whenever we use present perfect or past perfect' ?

See my marks above. I have no idea what "v3" means so I'm afraid I can't explain its use.
 
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I have a car that was made in Japan.
I have a car made in Japan.

Saying I have a car having been made in Japan instead sounds strange to me.

The "having been" part is understood, in my opinion.
 

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I have a car that was made in Japan.
I have a car made in Japan.

Saying I have a car having been made in Japan instead sounds strange to me.

The "having been" part is understood, in my opinion.

If anything, we understand an unspoken "that was". Having been​ doesn't fit there.
 

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I am sorry but ı still couldn't get a complete answer.
I want to know the correct forms of my sentences and the reason why they are not correct
I want to see a short explanation of the usage of 'having been+past participle'
Please give me an explanation soon.
I am waiting for an exact answer before I deliver a worksheet about this subject to my students.
I do not want to deliver an incorrect paper
 

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Why did you quote a helpful response from jutfrank when you wrote that?
I also appreciate correction of the words and spelling but what I need is the 'meaning' (where to use the construction and why the logic in my sentences is not okay)
 
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