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    It is where I lived. It was when I lived alone. I don't know why I failed.

    1. It is (the place) where I lived.
    2. It was (the time) when I lived alone.
    3. I don't know (the reason) why I failed.
    4. He is the person who I saw.

    The bracketed text can be omitted, while the underlined text cannot.
    Am I right?
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    #2

    Re: It is where I lived. It was when I lived alone. I don't know why I failed.

    You're right.

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    #3

    Re: It is where I lived. It was when I lived alone. I don't know why I failed.

    I would say that "He/She/That is who I saw" is fine in BrE. "the person" can be omitted.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: It is where I lived. It was when I lived alone. I don't know why I failed.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    "the person" can be omitted.
    Why did Rover_KE say the antecedent could not be omitted below?
    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/t...=1#post1295186
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    #5

    Re: It is where I lived. It was when I lived alone. I don't know why I failed.

    'He is who went to school with my mum' is not natural English (and my reply in that thread got several Likes.)

    Similarly, 'He is who I saw' sounds wrong to me. 'That is who I saw' is fine.

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    Re: It is where I lived. It was when I lived alone. I don't know why I failed.

    'He is who went to school with my mum' is not natural English (and my reply in that thread got several Likes.)

    Similarly, 'He is who I saw' sounds wrong to me.


    I agree that the first isn't natural. The second doesn't sound great, but I think it is possible.

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    #7

    Re: It is where I lived. It was when I lived alone. I don't know why I failed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    3. I don't know (the reason) why I failed.


    The bracketed text can be omitted, while the underlined text cannot.
    Am I right?
    Omit "the reason" or omit "why" -- do NOT use both.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: It is where I lived. It was when I lived alone. I don't know why I failed.

    I would not use 'the reason', but is there a reason why it is wrong?

    The underlined text above is a quote from Cambridge, so I think it is right.
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    Re: It is where I lived. It was when I lived alone. I don't know why I failed.

    I, and many other writers, find it redundant.
    Perhaps we Americans are more adamant about it than UK speakers.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #10

    Re: It is where I lived. It was when I lived alone. I don't know why I failed.

    Many people consider 'reason why' bad style. The Cambridge Grammar site writers don't. I do. When I was at school in England fifty and more years ago, it was definitely wrong.

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