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    Marxists in Russia/The Marxists in Russia

    Is there a difference between:
    1) Marxists in Russia believed in economic determinism.
    and
    2) The Marxists in Russia believed in economic determinism.

    Is '1' about all the Marxists in Russia?

    Is there a difference between:
    3) Marxists in Russia proposed a new reading of Marx.
    and
    4) The Marxists in Russia proposed a new reading of Marx.


    Is '3' about all the Marxists in Russia?


    Is there a difference between:
    5) Doctors in France use that procedure.
    and
    6) The Doctors in France use that procedure.

    Is '5' about all the doctors in France?



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    #2

    Re: Marxists in Russia/The Marxists in Russia

    The first sentence in each pair is more likely, at least without context. You would use the definite articles if you had been discussing other groups of Marxists and doctors and now wanted to contrast Russian and French groups from the others you had discussed.
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    Re: Marxists in Russia/The Marxists in Russia

    Thank you very much, GoesStation,

    Wouldn't you say that these two are ambiguous:

    3) Marxists in Russia proposed a new reading of Marx.

    5) Doctors in France use that procedure.


    Can we tell if all Marxists in Russia proposed a new reading of Marx, or only some of them?
    Can we tell if all doctors in France use that procedure or only some of them?

    I think the versions with 'the' imply the 'all' readings.

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    Re: Marxists in Russia/The Marxists in Russia

    Sentences 3 and 5 are imprecise, not ambiguous. They don't tell us how many Marxists or doctors are involved except that it's more than one.

    The sentences with the definite article don't imply "all". They merely contrast some group of Russians and French people with other groups we have previously discussed.
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