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    #1

    just the same v. just as the same

    I would like to ask which one means "exactly the": "just the same" or "just as the same". For example, using them in sentences:

    1. If the sentences are "just the same in meaning", hence they are identical in meaning.
    2. If the sentences are "just as the same in meaning", hence they are identical in meaning.

    I hope I have explained it properly.

    P.S: In spite of the fact that "just as the same" seems to me nice and correct, after a search I saw that native speakers do not use it.

    Thank you.

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    #2

    Re: just the same v. just as the same

    This non-native would not use it either because it seems strange and incorrect.
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    #3

    Re: just the same v. just as the same

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    I would like to ask which one means "exactly the same"
    Is that what you meant?

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    #4

    Re: just the same v. just as the same

    I would omit 'hence' from the conditional sentences.
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    #5

    Re: just the same v. just as the same

    I would like to ask which one means "exactly the
    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    Is that what you meant?
    Yes, but I am looking for an identical expression, in which "just" or both "just" and "as" are used.

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    #6

    Re: just the same v. just as the same

    You climbed the hill in 23 minutes, just as I did.
    You climbed the hill in 23 minutes, exactly the same as I did.

    They mean the same.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: just the same v. just as the same

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    You climbed the hill in 23 minutes, just as I did.
    You climbed the hill in 23 minutes, exactly the same as I did.

    They mean the same.
    Then it seems that we cannot combine "just as" and "the same".

    Thank you.

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    #8

    Re: just the same v. just as the same

    That's what you were told in post #2. "just as the same" does not work in the context you're using.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #9

    Re: just the same v. just as the same

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    That's what you were told in post #2. "just as the same" does not work in the context you're using.
    Then, this means there can be contexts in which "just as the same" can be correct. So what can it be?

    Thank you.

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    #10

    Re: just the same v. just as the same

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    Then, this means there can be contexts in which "just as the same" can be correct. So what can it be?
    I walked into the bar just as the same three ominous characters I'd seen earlier got up to leave.
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