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    #11

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    1. I have been to a place.
    2. I have been here twice now.

    I think they are very different because 'to' is absent from 2, as 'to' refers to a place where you are not. We think in the same native language, but I don't understand why you are confused.

    Post #2 already answered your question in post #7.

    Got you, finally. Actually, I got confused about these two sentences:

    I have been to Beijing once before.
    I have been in Beijing twice now.

    When I say "I have been to Beijing once before.", of course, it means I went to Beijing at an indefinite time in the past and I returned and I am not in Beijing now. However, it is quite another story when I say "I have been in Beijing twice now.", it means I am in Beijing now and this is my second visit.

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    #12

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by rodgers white View Post
    I always thought that the sentence "I have been to a place" must mean I returned now.
    Quote Originally Posted by rodgers white View Post
    However, it is quite another story when I say "I have been in Beijing twice now.", it means I am in Beijing now and this is my second visit.
    No. You can be anywhere when you say that. If I'm back home after a trip to Beijing, I can tell a friend that I've now been to Beijing twice.
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    #13

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    No. You can be anywhere when you say that. If I'm back home after a trip to Beijing, I can tell a friend that I've now been to Beijing twice.
    Yes, we can say "I've now been to Beijing twice." But can we say "I've now been in Beijing twice." if you are already back home after a trip to Beijing?

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    #14

    Re: I have been here twice.

    If you are already back home, you are no longer in Beijing, so I think you cannot say 'in Beijing'.
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    #15

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    If you are already back home, you are no longer in Beijing, so I think you cannot say 'in Beijing'.
    Yes, this is what I mean. So I say:

    When I say "I have been to Beijing once.", of course, it means I went to Beijing at an indefinite time in the past and I returned and I am not in Beijing now. However, it is quite another story when I say "I have been in Beijing twice now.", it means I am in Beijing now and this is my second visit.
    What do you think of the above, Matthew Wai?
    Last edited by rodgers white; 06-Mar-2017 at 15:34.

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    #16

    Re: I have been here twice.

    If you're still in Beijing, you can say "I've been to Beijing twice now" or "I've been in Beijing twice now". If you've left, you can use only "I've been to Beijing twice".
    Bear in mind that if you're in Beijing and you start a sentence with "I've been in Beijing ...", the listener will probably expect you to continue with something like "... for three weeks."
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #17

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    If you're still in Beijing, you can say "I've been to Beijing twice now" or "I've been in Beijing twice now". If you've left, you can use only "I've been to Beijing twice".
    Bear in mind that if you're in Beijing and you start a sentence with "I've been in Beijing ...", the listener will probably expect you to continue with something like "... for three weeks."
    Thanks very much for your careful explanation. I understand it at last. I have to say sometimes there are so many exceptions in the English language, which really drives me mad. Thanks to all your help, I can explain this to my students tomorrow. Thank you all.

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    #18

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    If I'm back home after a trip to Beijing, I can tell a friend that I've now been to Beijing twice.
    Quote Originally Posted by rodgers white View Post
    Yes, we can say "I've now been to Beijing twice." But can we say "I've now been in Beijing twice" (no period) if you are already back home after a trip to Beijing?
    Yes. That's what I said in post #12.

    You should omit sentence-ending punctuation from a quoted sentence if the sentence it's inserted in continues after the quotation.
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    #19

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Yes. That's what I said in post #12.
    But emsr2d2 says:

    If you've left, you can use only "I've been to Beijing twice".

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    #20

    Re: I have been here twice.

    I think I missed the preposition in in the last sentence you asked about. To works better: I've been to Beijing twice now. But there are many cases where in works even when you're somewhere else: I have asthma attacks whenever I'm in​ Beijing.
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