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    #21

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Yes. That's what I said in post #12.
    Does the above 'Yes' refer to the following question?
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    But can we say "I've now been in Beijing twice." if you are already back home after a trip to Beijing?
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    So, if I were in Beijing right now, I had previously visited once. We can say: I have been here before. / I have been here twice now. / I have been here once before.
    I suspect the above second conditional is not correct.

    So, if I were in Beijing right now, and I had previously visited, then I could say 'I have been here before', 'I have been here twice now', or 'I have been here once before'.
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    #22

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Does the above 'Yes' refer to the following question?



    I suspect the above second conditional is not correct.

    So, if I were in Beijing right now, and I had previously visited, then I could say 'I have been here before', 'I have been here twice now', or 'I have been here once before'.
    According to emrs2d2, I also could say 'I have been to Beijing twice now' or I have been in Beijing twice now', but I could not say 'I have been to Beijing twice'.

    And bear in mind that if you're in Beijing and you start a sentence with "I've been in Beijing ...", the listener will probably expect you to continue with something like "... for three weeks."

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    #23

    Re: I have been here twice.

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    I could not say 'I have been to Beijing twice'.
    You can if you've left. See below.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    If you've left, you can use only "I've been to Beijing twice".
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    #24

    Re: I have been here twice.

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    You can if you've left. See below.
    Yes, this is what I mean. When I say I could not say 'I have been to Beijing twice', I mean I am still in Bejing.

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    #25

    Re: I have been here twice.

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    Yes, this is what I mean. When I say I could not say 'I have been to Beijing twice', I mean I am still in Bejing.
    It would be odd to say that while you were in Beijing unless you carried the sentence on with some more information. For example, you might say I've been to Beijing twice before, but this is the first time I've stayed in this hotel.
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    #26

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    It would be odd to say that while you were in Beijing unless you carried the sentence on with some more information. For example, you might say I've been to Beijing twice before, but this is the first time I've stayed in this hotel.

    I understand that. I mean:

    If I were in Beijing right now, and I had previously visited once, then I could say 'I have been here before', 'I have been here twice now', or 'I have been here once before'. I also could say 'I have been to Beijing twice now' or 'I have been in Beijing twice now', but I could not say 'I have been to Beijing twice'. If I've left Beijing, I can use only "I've been to Beijing twice".
    Is the above right? In your situation, you mean that you have been to Beijing three times now or you have been in Beijing three times now. But you can not say that 'you have been to Beijing three times' when you are still in Beijing. Am I right?

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    #27

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    If you're still in Beijing, you can say "I've been to Beijing twice now" or "I've been in Beijing twice now". If you've left, you can use only "I've been to Beijing twice".
    Bear in mind that if you're in Beijing and you start a sentence with "I've been in Beijing ...", the listener will probably expect you to continue with something like "... for three weeks."
    Are you sure? I'm not in New York now, but I've been in New York lots of times. Why can't anyone have been in Beijing?

    Is this just a difference between American and British English?
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    #28

    Re: I have been here twice.

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    Does the above 'Yes' refer to the following question?



    I suspect the above second conditional is not correct.

    So, if I were in Beijing right now, and I had previously visited, then I could say 'I have been here before', 'I have been here twice now', or 'I have been here once before'.
    Or:

    - This is my second visit.
    - This is my second time here.
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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    #29

    Re: I have been here twice.

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    Are you sure? I'm not in New York now, but I've been in New York lots of times. Why can't anyone have been in Beijing?

    Is this just a difference between American and British English?
    As for me, I would say: I've been to New York lots of times if I'm not in New York now.

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    #30

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by rodgers white View Post
    As for me, I would say: I've been to New York lots of times if I'm not in New York now.
    So would I. I don't think it sounds logical to say that I have been to a place when you are still there.
    I would say: I have been here twice(once before).
    Last edited by tedmc; 07-Mar-2017 at 05:56.
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