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    #41

    Re: I have been here twice.

    That's what I meant when I said 'Context is always important'. If there is insufficient context, you may have to ask for clarification.

    If we are sitting in a park in Beijing when I say that, Matthew, your question would not be appropriate, but "Do you mean 'once before?'" would.

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    #42

    Re: I have been here twice.

    My question would be appropriate if we are talking on the phone.
    'Context is king', as the saying goes.
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    #43

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    It is not really that there are so many exceptions in this type of situation. It is simply that it is not possible to say that 'I have been to ...' can be used of only one precisely defined situation and 'I have been in ...' can be used only of another precisely defined situation.

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    You will note that I have said that both 'to' and 'in' are possible in all these situations. I would probably use 'in' only when I was actually in Beijing. Even then, I would probably still use 'to'. However, there are no absolute rules about this.
    I second Piscean's thoughtful response. In is more likely in some contexts, to is more likely in others, and there are many contexts where either works equally well.
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    #44

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by rodgers white View Post
    As for me, I would say: I've been to New York lots of times if I'm not in New York now.
    Yup. And I'd say it if I were in New York now.

    - Welcome to New York! Is this your first trip here? (NOT in.)

    - No, I've been to New York lots of times. (To and in both work there, though I agree that to is more likely.) In fact, I used to live in the city. (NOT to.)

    (Note: Like San Francisco, New York is often just called "the city.")
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    #45

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Yup. And I'd say it if I were in New York now.

    - Welcome to New York! Is this your first trip here? (NOT in.)

    - No, I've been to New York lots of times. (To and in both work there, though I agree that to is more likely.) In fact, I used to live in the city. (NOT to.)

    (Note: Like San Francisco, New York is often just called "the city.")
    That's why we say: Context is always important.

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    #46

    Re: I have been here twice.

    This non-native would add 'here' and 'before' when I am and am not respectively in New York if 'in' is used.
    1. I have been here in New York lots of times.
    2. I have been in New York lots of times before.
    Last edited by Matthew Wai; 08-Mar-2017 at 15:02. Reason: Adding an 's' after 'lot'.
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    #47

    Re: I have been here twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    This non-native would add 'here' and 'before' when I am and am not respectively in New York if 'in' is used.
    1. I have been here in New York lot of times.
    2. I have been in New York lot of times before.
    With an indefinite article before "lot", both sentences will be correct, but "here" and "before" are not required.
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