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    Please kindly help me analyze this complex sentence!!! Thank you

    "A common form theories of this kind take, when the observations have been repeated and the patterns consistent, is that of a set of laws."


    My questions are as follows:
    1. Where are the subject and the main verb of the main sentence? I'm very confused by the verbs 'take' and 'is'.
    2. In "...is that of a set of laws.", what does 'that' represent and what is its grammatical function?


    I truly appreciate anyone who is willing to help. Thank you!

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    Re: Please kindly help me analyze this complex sentence!!! Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by arako311 View Post
    "A common form theories of this kind take, when the observations have been repeated and the patterns consistent, is that of a set of laws."


    A common form which theories of this kind take (, when the observations have been repeated and the patterns consistent,) is that of a set of laws.
    Hello arako311, and welcome to the forum.
    I added the "which" in blue to help you understand the sentence. The text in green is parenthetical (adds extra information) and can be omitted. And the "that" you ask about refers to "form."

    Does that help?

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    Re: Please kindly help me analyze this complex sentence!!! Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by arako311 View Post
    1. Where are the subject and the main verb of the main sentence? I'm very confused by the verbs 'take' and 'is'.
    I consider 'A common form' and 'is' to be the subject and the main verb respectively.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: Please kindly help me analyze this complex sentence!!! Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    Hello arako311, and welcome to the forum.
    I added the "which" in blue to help you understand the sentence. . . .
    Yes. In American English we would usually use "that." In that kind of sentence, "which" is grammatical but not natural. We usually use "which" only when there's a comma in front of it:

    The question, which made sense, was answered easily.
    (There was one question. It made sense.)

    The question that made sense was answered easily. (There were several questions. Only one made sense.)
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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    Re: Please kindly help me analyze this complex sentence!!! Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Yes. In American English we would usually use "that." In that kind of sentence, "which" is grammatical but not natural. We usually use "which" only when there's a comma in front of it:

    The question, which made sense, was answered easily.
    (There was one question. It made sense.)

    The question that made sense was answered easily. (There were several questions. Only one made sense.)

    Thank you for your kind reply, too.
    Your demonstrations of restrictive and non-restrictive relative clauses are also very helpful, for you've shown me some other aspects I didn't notice.
    I'm so happy I found this forum!

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    Re: Please kindly help me analyze this complex sentence!!! Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    Hello arako311, and welcome to the forum.
    I added the "which" in blue to help you understand the sentence. The text in green is parenthetical (adds extra information) and can be omitted. And the "that" you ask about refers to "form."

    Does that help?
    Hi, Thank you sooooo much!!
    That "which" really helps a great deal, since that's the exact point where I got lost.
    Whenever a relative pronoun is omitted or when there is a reverse sentence structure, I get confused. And it also thwarts my comprehension of the sentence meaning.
    Once again, thank you so much :D

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    Re: Please kindly help me analyze this complex sentence!!! Thank you

    'Kindly' is redundant and should have been omitted from the thread title.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: Please kindly help me analyze this complex sentence!!! Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    'Kindly' is redundant and should have been omitted from the thread title.
    Okay:) I'll pay more attention to the redundant wording in the future. Thank you.

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