[Grammar] (An) Oracle Developer

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"Oracle Developer" is a title of a job position.
Should I say "I am working as an Oracle Developer" or "as Oracle Developer" without "an"?
 

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The title is capitalised in a job advert, but not in conversation.

Say 'I am working as an Oracle developer' if you are one of several. If you are the sole holder of that position, say 'I am working as Oracle developer for Delphi Prognostications, Inc.'

Since Oracle is a proper noun in this context (it's the name of a product), it has to be capitalized.
 

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Would you say "I'm working as bricklayer?" or "I'm working as waiter?"

No. You need an article. I am a barber. I am an accountant. I am an Oracle developer.
 

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Oracle is a name of a company, and "Oracle Developer" is a title of a position.
Should I only capitalize "Oracle" or "Developer" as well when I mention the title of the position?
 

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If both words constitute the job title, capitalise them both. However, that only works when referring to your specific job.

I am an Oracle developer.
I am a developer at Oracle.
I work for Oracle. My job is Oracle Developer.
 

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Sorry, I did not get you. You said "that only works when referring to your specific job", then you wrote two sentences,
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I am an Oracle developer.
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I work for Oracle. My job is Oracle Developer.
and the both refers to my specific job, but the first "
Oracle developer" and second "Oracle Developer". which one is right?
 

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One is a job title. Job titles are usually capitalized.
 

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If you think of the context, "Oracle Developer" is not a proper definition. It seems you are a DBA, not a Oracle Developer. "I am a Oracle DBA" is a much more proper definition. You develop something over framework or language, not over a corporation.
 

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If you think of the context, "Oracle Developer" is not a proper definition. It seems you are a DBA, not a Oracle Developer. "I am a Oracle DBA" is a much more proper definition. You develop something over framework or language, not over a corporation.

I feared this would come up when Oracle as a corporation was introduced to the thread. In the context of the original post, you should think of Oracle as a product containing development tools. The product is developed and marketed by a company which is also called Oracle.
 

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What is a 'DBA'?
If it's a job title. it's not a definition.
Your second sentence makes little sense to me.

A DBA is a database administrator, the person responsible for making a complex database run quickly and efficiently.

For learners' benefit, "DBA" is capitalized because it's an abbreviation.
 

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So an Oracle Developer develops [an] Oracle, not for Oracle. Is that right?
 

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So an Oracle Developer develops [an] Oracle, not for Oracle. Is that right?

Oracle offers a large range of products. I think someone presenting themselves as an Oracle developer would claim to be familiar with all of their development tools. You can't say you develop Oracle or in Oracle; you'd have to name the specific Oracle product(s) in which you develop.
 

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I don't see any reason to think that someone who presents himself as an Oracle developer is actually just a database administrator. They are two different things.
 

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Oracle is a Corporation. As a corporation, it creates or buys some frameworks or languages in order to maintain its product, or simply to profit. Some of the languages presented by Oracle Corporation are "PL/SQL" , "Java" to name a few. If you develop something over Java language, you are a Java Developer, not Oracle Developer. Likewise if you develop something for your PC that have Windows operating system, you will be C Sharp developer (name of language) or WPF developer, (name of framework) not a Microsoft Developer."software developer on Oracle stack" would be a proper definiton. It would be a technical issue, so it could be a bit confusing.

Today humankind uses many computing products that make sense our life, decipher enemy text, or explore Mars. We owe this outstanding tool to distinguished scientists such as John von Neumann, Alan Turing, not to corporations.
 
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Still understand nothing.
"Oracle" word is part of the position's title. How should it be written?
 

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If you have an employment contract and on that contract it gives your job title as "Oracle Developer", then that's how it should be written. Is this your job we are talking about?
 

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Oracle is a Corporation. As a corporation, it creates or buys some frameworks or languages in order to maintain its product, or simply to profit. Some of the languages presented by Oracle Corporation are "PL/SQL" , "Java" to name a few. If you develop something over Java language, you are a Java Developer, not Oracle Developer. Likewise if you develop something for your PC that have Windows operating system, you will be C Sharp developer (name of language) or WPF developer, (name of framework) not a Microsoft Developer."software developer on Oracle stack" would be a proper definiton. It would be a technical issue, so it could be a bit confusing.

Well, my company uses Oracle's E-Business Suite. And we all refer to the software as "Oracle." When we adopted the software, it had to be tailored to our particular business and processes. That took developers who were specialists in that. So "Oracle" is not just the name of the corporation.
 

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"Oracle" word is part of the position's title. How should it be written?
Like any proper noun, "Oracle" has to be capitalized. It's a proper noun when it refers to the Oracle Corporation or its products.
 

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I am really confused now and I do not see a reason for this.
My job is "Oracle Developer" (really), it's what I do for living.
"Oracle Developer" is a job title (all of it), "Oracle Developer" like "doctor", or "engineer", so how to write it?
should I capitalize both words or only the first?
 

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If it is your job title, then capitalize both words. If you are merely describing your job to someone then only "Oracle" needs to be capitalized.

Contrast "I am a surgeon" with "I am Chief Surgeon at General Hospital."
 
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