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    in effect v. in substance v. virtually.

    "the committee agreed to what was in effect a reduction in the hourly wage Current Biog." I am having some difficulties to understand this sentence. Would you please explain the meaning of the sentence in a different way.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/in%20effect

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    Re: in effect v. in substance v. virtually.

    The committee agreed to terms which resulted in workers earning less money per hour. "In effect" suggests that the wage itself was not reduced, but other aspects of the agreement led to lower net income per hour.
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    Re: in effect v. in substance v. virtually.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    The committee agreed to terms which resulted in workers earning less money per hour. "In effect" suggests that the wage itself was not reduced, but other aspects of the agreement led to lower net income per hour.
    Is the underlined part surely correct, or it is a guess?

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    Re: in effect v. in substance v. virtually.

    In effect = ultimately = in the end
    Why do you think GoesStation's post might be a guess? Which part do you doubt?

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    Re: in effect v. in substance v. virtually.

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    In effect = ultimately = in the end
    Why do you think GoesStation's post might be a guess? Which part do you doubt?
    Because of "other aspects". There might be no other aspect, for example. It is not mostly doubt, it is mostly a question of understanding. I try to undestand how did that part appear.

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    Re: in effect v. in substance v. virtually.

    The writer would not have included "in effect" if the wage had been explicitly reduced.
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    Re: in effect v. in substance v. virtually.

    The phrase "in effect" implies: that was the effect of it, even if that effect (or result) was indirect.

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    Re: in effect v. in substance v. virtually.

    Can we think in effect here means consequently or as a result?

    2. "the … committee agreed to what was in effect/consequently/as a result of a reduction in the hourly wage — Current Biog"?

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    Re: in effect v. in substance v. virtually.

    No, but you can use "in essence", "essentially", "basically", "effectively".

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    #10

    In effect, Herr Burgdorf, yes

    This is from dialogue of two peple.

    -So he finances terror,” he retorts loudly, spelling matters out for the benefit of the many
    -In effect, Herr Burgdorf, yes

    Does in effect here mean actually?

    -So he finances terror,” he retorts loudly, spelling matters out for the benefit of the many
    -Actually, Herr Burgdorf, yes

    Source: https://books.google.com.tr/books?id...%20yes&f=false

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    Last edited by hhtt21; 30-Mar-2017 at 20:29.

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