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    Strange symbol for schwa sound in linking

    Dear All,

    Could you please have a look at the photo attached ad explain to me what the symbol is for the schwa sound (marked) the presenter has used. It does resembes "UV". He used it while explaining the linking in would+have, could+have. Thank you.
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    Re: Strange symbol for schwa sound in linking

    The symbol above the letter o in the word of does resemble a conventional schwa. I wonder whether UV stands for unvoiced, though I think it should represent the fact that it is not emphasised.

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    Re: Strange symbol for schwa sound in linking

    Thank you. Please clarify why in your view the presenter has used UV (at least it resembles UV in his handwriting) for the case when the preposition "of" is realised as the weak form and schwa is pronounced. I marked his handwriting. He applied the same symbol UV for the case when should, would and could are used with have and the linking is used. Thanks a lot.

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    Re: Strange symbol for schwa sound in linking

    I think uv is meant to represent the pronunciation of have and of when they're in a weak form. E.g. coulduv, woulduv, etc.

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    Re: Strange symbol for schwa sound in linking

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    The symbol above the letter o in the word of does resemble a conventional schwa.
    But the symbol looks upside down to me.

    (Edit) ... and I've found this:
    http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/manu...s__vowels.html
    Last edited by tzfujimino; 30-Mar-2017 at 18:08.

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    Re: Strange symbol for schwa sound in linking

    If the symbol above the o is a schwa, it's upside down and back to front!

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    Re: Strange symbol for schwa sound in linking

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Thanks - nice chart. I still think it should be a schwa there, though.

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    Re: Strange symbol for schwa sound in linking

    I agree, jutfrank. If the intent is to describe the everyday pronunciation of would've should've etc. why is an ordinary schwa incorrect or insufficient? What distinction is being drawn?

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