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    My friend who lives next door was born in April, when most of the celebrities were bo

    Are these bold parts as the none-defining adjective clauses correct? I am not sure about the use of preposition in none-defining clause.

    My friend who lives next door was born on April 15, when his father dies on.


    My friend who lives next door was born in New York, where most of the celebrities live in.

    Defining-relative clause:
    He was born on April 15 when his father dies.
    He lives in New York where most of the celebrities live

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    Re: My friend who lives next door was born in April, when most of the celebrities wer

    Let's keep it simple. In the sentence below, the bold part between the commas is a non-defining relative clause.

    My friend, who lives next door, was born on April 15.

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    Re: My friend who lives next door was born in April, when most of the celebrities wer

    Quote Originally Posted by nininaz View Post
    Are these bold parts as the non-defining adjective clauses correct?
    No. Your sentences are not grammatical.

    Quote Originally Posted by nininaz View Post
    I am not sure about the use of prepositions in non-defining clause.
    You can. For example,

    My grandmother, whom everyone looks up to, will be 85 next month.

    I haven't bothered to correct the rest of the post.

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    Re: My friend who lives next door was born in April, when most of the celebrities wer

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Let's keep it simple. In the sentence below, the bold part between the commas is a non-defining relative clause.My friend, who lives next door, was born on April 15.
    What if he had more than one friend which is more likely. Would you still think it's a non - defining clause .

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    Re: My friend who lives next door was born in April, when most of the celebrities wer

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    What if he had more than one friend, which is more likely. possible; would you still think it's a non-defining clause?
    Lordblizzard, please correct the information on your profile page.

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    Re: My friend who lives next door was born in April, when most of the celebrities wer

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    No. Your sentences are not grammatical.


    You can. For example,

    My grandmother, whom everyone looks up to, will be 85 next month.

    I haven't bothered to correct the rest of the post.
    This is my book's example:

    "Kate has just been to Sweden, where her daughter lives."

    I want to use 'where' and 'when' as non-defining clauses. Could you please give me examples to use them correctly?

    How about the following:

    My friend was born on April 15, when his father dies on.


    My friend lives in New York, where most of the celebrities live in.
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    Re: My friend who lives next door was born in April, when most of the celebrities wer

    Quote Originally Posted by nininaz View Post
    This is my book's example:

    "Kate has just been to Sweden, where her daughter lives."

    I want to use 'where' and 'when' as in non-defining clauses. Could you please give me examples of how to use them correctly?
    How about the following?

    My friend was born on April 15, when which is (also) the date of his father's death. dies on.
    My friend lives in New York, where most of the many celebrities live. in.
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    Re: My friend who lives next door was born in April, when most of the celebrities wer

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    What if he had more than one friend which is more likely. Would you still think it's a non - defining clause .
    If who had more than one friend? It's irrelevant to the grammar of this sentence how many friends anyone has.

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    Re: My friend who lives next door was born in April, when most of the celebrities wer

    Quote Originally Posted by nininaz View Post
    I want to use 'where' and 'when' as non-defining clauses. Could you please give me examples to use them correctly?

    How about the following:

    My friend was born on April 15, when his father dies on.
    My friend was born on April 15, which is the day his father died.

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    Re: My friend who lives next door was born in April, when most of the celebrities wer

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    If who had more than one friend? It's irrelevant to the grammar of this sentence how many friends anyone has.
    The speaker . If the speaker had more than one friend, how would you identify each of them ? Wouldn't you need to use defining relative clauses to know who's whom ?

    My friend who lives on Apple street is a loser but my friend who who lives on pineapple street is cool .

    See? no commas .
    My point is context matters.
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