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    to know pain

    "As a fighter he knew pain, or thought he did."
    Does to know pain used here fit with,
    does it not?

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    #2

    Re: to know pain

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    "As a fighter he knew pain, or thought he did."
    Does to know pain used here fit with the following definition? ,

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    does it not?

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    Yes it does. See correction above.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: to know pain

    2. "As a fighter he experienced pain, or thought he did."
    3. "As a fighter he lived through pain, or thought he did."

    Do the above sentences convey the same idea, if would they be as natural as the original?

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    #4

    Re: to know pain

    Yes, and they are both more natural than the original.

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    #5

    Re: to know pain

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    Yes, and they are both more natural than the original.
    I had thought that the most natural was the original.

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    Re: to know pain

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    I had thought that the most natural was the original.
    I agree. In my judgement, 1) is the most natural, 2) is okay and 3) is not at all natural.

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    Re: to know pain

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    I agree. In my judgement, 1) is the most natural, 2) is okay and 3) is not at all natural.
    But can 3 be a figurative one? Might one think pain something like they can learn so that they could use live through?

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    Re: to know pain

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    But can 3 be a figurative one? Might one think pain something like they can learn so that they could use live through?
    I don't understand what you mean. Figurative in what way? Living through is not related to learning.

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    Re: to know pain

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    I don't understand what you mean. Figurative in what way? Living through is not related to learning.
    Sorry, I have supposed living through related to learning.

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    Re: to know pain

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    I had thought that the most natural was the original.

    Thank you.
    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    Sorry, I have supposed living through related to learning.

    Thank you.
    In both instances above, you used a perfect tense when you should have used the past simple.

    In the first, a more natural word order would be "I thought the original was the most natural".
    In the second, "I thought [that]" would be much better than "supposed".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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