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    "fall" in the passive

    May the verb " fall" comes in passive
    form or not ?
    e.g
    this wallet was fallen on the road .
    Last edited by teechar; 24-Apr-2017 at 17:43.

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    #2

    Re: "fall" in the passive

    Hello Khalid, and welcome to the forum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Khalid Almohammed View Post
    May Can the verb "fall" comes be in the passive voice?
    form or not ?
    E.g.,
    This wallet was fallen on the road .
    No, it can't. It is an intransitive verb.
    Say: this wallet fell on the road.

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    #3

    Re: "fall" in the passive

    In some cases like "fallen soldiers" but not your example.

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    #4

    Re: "fall" in the passive

    Quote Originally Posted by andrewg927 View Post
    In some cases like "fallen soldiers" but not your example.
    That's incorrect. The "fallen" in "fallen soldiers" is an adjective.

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    #5

    Re: "fall" in the passive

    I don't see a way to turn that into a genuinely passive sentence sentence like The soldiers were fallen.

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    #6

    Re: "fall" in the passive

    No, it can't. It is an intransitive verb.
    Of course, sometimes we can form passives with intransitive verbs when followed by a prepositional phrase, the subject of the passive construction being the object of the preposition in the active. This is known as the "prepositional passive." I totally agree that we can't change This wallet fell on the road to *The road was fallen on by this wallet, which I find ungrammatical (why, I'm not exactly sure), but it occurred to me that it might work in a case with fall from. When I tried Googling has been fallen from, I encountered a book on the prepositional passive which lists a number of possible prepositional passive sentences with fallen, including fallen on:

    This dangerous roof has been fallen from by a number of people.
    She was accustomed to being fallen for by every man she met.
    This ditch is fallen into at least once a day.
    If scissors are fallen on, they can cause a deep puncture wound.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=xc...rom%22&f=false

    I'm not trying to unduly complicate this discussion, but lately the passive is my thing and I find this interesting.

    Last edited by Phaedrus; 25-Apr-2017 at 02:29. Reason: italics

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    #7

    Re: "fall" in the passive

    Phaedrus, you raised a very good point. Those sentences are all grammatical though they are a little awkward in their passive voice.

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