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    ellipses

    I posted my question in another forum:
    https://forum.wordreference.com/thre...#post-16788392

    However, my teacher stated another different idea:

    This stated that 15 minutes a day is healthy - but not 15 minutes at midday, when the sun is strongest.

    Could you please help me?
    which one is correct? Maybe both of them are correct. I don't know which part should participate in ellipses.

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    #2

    Re: ellipses

    I don't really understand your question.
    However, I can tell you that I interpret the statement as saying "You can spend 15 minutes outside without sunscreen, but this 15 minutes should not be at mid-day."
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: ellipses

    I don't understand the question either. There are no ellipses (brackets) in the sentence. Are you trying to add some?
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: ellipses

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I don't understand the question either. There are no ellipses (brackets) in the sentence. Are you trying to add some?
    Sorry about that.Now, I am trying to make my explanation more clear, and I am not sure if this kind of grammar called ellipses in English or not.

    This is my sentence:
    However, don't spend too long in the sun- 15 minutes a day without a sunscreen is a healthy amount, and not at midday.

    What makes me confused most is that how we can expand the underlined part?
    Let me give you an example:
    I love coffee but not ice cream coffee.
    we expand the second part as:
    I love coffee but I don't love ice cream coffee.
    Here, "not ice cream coffee" is replaced by "I don't love ice cream coffee".
    Now, in my example how it would be work?
    For example:
    However, don't spend too long in the sun- 15 minutes a day without a sunscreen is a healthy amount, and not 15 minutes at midday without sunscreen.

    OR
    However, don't spend too long in the sun- 15 minutes a day without a sunscreen is a healthy amount, and do not spend too long in the sun at midday.

    I don' know "NOT" represented what part of the sentence?(the first sentence or the second sentence of my original example)
    Last edited by newkeenlearner; 24-Apr-2017 at 17:35.

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    #5

    Re: ellipses

    First, it should be coffee ice cream. I don't know what ice cream coffee is.
    For your question,

    However, don't spend too long in the sun- 15 minutes a day without a sunscreen is a healthy amount, and not 15 minutes at midday without sunscreen. - Correct.

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    #6

    Re: ellipses

    Quote Originally Posted by andrewg927 View Post
    First, it should be coffee ice cream. I don't know what ice cream coffee is.
    For your question,

    However, don't spend too long in the sun- 15 minutes a day without a sunscreen is a healthy amount, and not 15 minutes at midday without sunscreen. - Correct.
    Thanks for your help and reply.
    What is called this kind of structure in English? I think it can't be considered as "Ellipses".

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    #7

    Re: ellipses

    Quote Originally Posted by newkeenlearner View Post
    What is called this kind of structure called in English? I don't think it's can't be considered an as "ellipsis".
    See above. I'm sorry I don't know the answer to your question. Please remember that questions require subject-verb inversion.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: ellipses

    "Coffee ice cream" is ice cream that's flavoured with coffee. I think an "ice cream coffee" is coffee with a dollop of ice cream in it. We used to make "ice cream hot chocolate" when I was a kid. We made a cup of steaming hot chocolate and then dropped a scoop of vanilla ice cream in. It was weird but delicious.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #9

    Re: ellipses

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I don't understand the question either. There are no ellipses (brackets) in the sentence. Are you trying to add some?
    The plural of "ellipsis" is "ellipses".

    ellipsis = the practice of leaving a word or words out of a sentence when they are not necessary for understanding it (Macmillan English Dictionary)
    I am not a teacher. I am currently studying basic English grammar.

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