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    #11

    Re: Valley served for a while as the second Batman

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    10 could be correct as well.
    I see no indication that Valley is acting as a servant to Batman.

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    #12

    Re: Valley served for a while as the second Batman

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    "He substituted for Batman when/while Bruce Wayne was injured." is exactly correct but one of the hearts of the question is that cannot be this process called as "He acted as Batman"? Cannot "He acted as Batman" mean "He took his job and did what former one do", at least with enough context? For example :"Because Bruce Wayne was injured, he gave his mission to Jean Paul Valley and Jean Paul Valley acted/served as Batman"
    There are many ways that one could say that Valley 'became' Batman while Bruce Wayne was unable to carry out his Batman role. The writer of your original sentence chose to us 'served as'.

    'Valley served as Batman' does not mean exactly the same as' Valley acted as Batman' or 'Valley took the job of Batman' or 'Valley played the part of Batmen', etc, and these alternatives do not mean exactly the same as each other. The words an individual chooses to say/write depend on the picture of the situaton they have in their mind. None of the sentences I have suggested is necessarily more or less appropriate that any of the others.

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    #13

    Re: Valley served for a while as the second Batman

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    There are many ways that one could say that Valley 'became' Batman while Bruce Wayne was unable to carry out his Batman role. The writer of your original sentence chose to us 'served as'.

    'Valley served as Batman' does not mean exactly the same as' Valley acted as Batman' or 'Valley took the job of Batman' or 'Valley played the part of Batmen', etc, and these alternatives do not mean exactly the same as each other. The words an individual chooses to say/write depend on the picture of the situaton they have in their mind. None of the sentences I have suggested is necessarily more or less appropriate that any of the others.
    Then do author think that both Bruce Wayne and Jean Paul give a free service to their society fighting agaist criminal as Batman exactly like charity organizations do?

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    #14

    Re: Valley served for a while as the second Batman

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    Then does the author think that both Bruce Wayne and Jean Paul give a free service to their society fighting agaist criminals as Batman exactly like charity organizations do?.
    You are trying to read things into the word 'serve'. that are not necessarily there. We have already said that Act to fulfil a purpose, role, or function and Do duty or hold office; perform a specific function (the definitions you linked to in post #5) cover the general idea of the meaning of the word. Don't try to add extra ideas such as 'free'
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    #15

    Re: Valley served for a while as the second Batman

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    You are trying to read things into the word 'serve'. that are not necessarily there. We have already said that Act to fulfil a purpose, role, or function and Do duty or holdoffice; perform a specificfunction (the definitions you linked to in post #5) cover the general idea of the meaning of the word.Don't try to add extra ideas such as 'free'
    I understand but 1 and 2, "act to fulfil a purpose" and "do duty or holdoffice; perform a specification" are given differently. Context is clear so which one should be fit?

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    #16

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    Please stop trying to shoehorn the meaning of words in utterances into one and only one narrow definition in one dictionary.

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    #17

    Re: Valley served for a while as the second Batman

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    Please stop trying to shoehorn the meaning of words in utterances into one and only one narrow definition in one dictionary.
    it is, relying on one source, is my casual and long-lasting mistake. I will try to fix this. I thought there was a difference between 1 and 2 for this context. But please let me establish a logical relationship between examples.

    1."The tree stump serves as a table" ( I understand that people use it as a table because the stump can do what )
    2. "Valley served for awhile as the second Batman when Bruce Wayne's spine was crippled" ( I understand that Valley took the role of batman and did Batman's mission.)

    3. "Before retiring, the professor served as a high school teacher."

    Are verbs "to serve" identical in meaning in these three examples?

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    #18

    Re: Valley served for a while as the second Batman

    No. The OP has been dealt with.

    As for the others, you can't use the professor as a table and a tree stump can' t teach high school.

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    #19

    Re: Valley served for a while as the second Batman

    You can tell from your own glosses of the meanings of the sentence that the first 'serve' does not mean exactly the same as the second and third.

    Equally, your knowledge of the fact that 'Batman' is not really a job in the sense that 'teacher' is tells the that the meanings of 'serve' in the second and third sentences are not identical. However, for practical purposes, there is no significant difference in meaning. in those sentences.

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    #20

    Re: Valley served for a while as the second Batman

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    You can tell from your own glosses of the meanings of the sentence that the first 'serve' does not mean exactly the same as the second and third.

    Equally, your knowledge of the fact that 'Batman' is not really a job in the sense that 'teacher' is tells the that the meanings of 'serve' in the second and third sentences are not identical. However, for practical purposes, there is no significant difference in meaning. in those sentences.
    Yes, I tried to discuss the main idea of the verb and I think it is "to carry out or fulfill a job, a mission or sort of thing."

    Thank you.

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