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    don't + sometimes

    I donít travel to work by car. (sometimes)

    The task is to put the adverb of frequency in the correct place.
    The answer key says: "I sometimes donít travel to work by car."
    I wrote: " I don't sometimes travel to work by car" since it would be the position of other adverbs of frequency in this sentence.
    However, it only sounds nice to me if I place "sometimes" at the beginning: "Sometimes I don't travel to work by car."
    What's the correct/natural way to say this?

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    Re: don't + sometimes

    Sometimes I don't travel to work by car.
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    Re: don't + sometimes

    Sometimes, I don't travel...
    I sometimes don't travel...


    These are okay.

    I don't sometimes travel...

    This is not.

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    #4

    Re: don't + sometimes

    If there's a general rule for the placement of adverbs of frequency, it doesn't work here. It's natural to say I don't often travel to work by car, but it's not natural to replace "often" with "sometimes".
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: don't + sometimes

    There are rules, or patterns of usage.

    sometimes and often do not belong to exactly the same class of adverb. There's a subtle difference in use.

    In this sentence, sometimes means on some occasions, whereas (not) often would mean at a (relatively) low frequency.

    I sometimes don't travel to work by car. = On some occasions I don't travel to work by car.
    I don't often travel to work by car. = It is infrequent that I travel to work by car.

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    Re: don't + sometimes

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    There are rules, or patterns of usage.

    sometimes and often do not belong to exactly the same class of adverb. There's a subtle difference in use.

    In this sentence, sometimes means on some occasions, whereas (not) often would mean at a (relatively) low frequency.

    I sometimes don't travel to work by car. = On some occasions I don't travel to work by car.
    I don't often travel to work by car. = It is infrequent that I travel to work by car.
    Do you want to say that the meaning of an adverb affects its placement?

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    Re: don't + sometimes

    Quote Originally Posted by Meja View Post
    Do you want to say that the meaning of an adverb affects its placement?
    Basically, yes, but this can be quite complicated.

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    #8

    Re: don't + sometimes

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Basically, yes, but this can be quite complicated.
    It sounds complicated.

    I don't always travel to work by car.
    I don't usually travel to work by car.
    I don't often travel to work by car.

    I sometimes don't travel to work by car.

    How about "generally" and "occasionally"? Do they follow the same pattern as "sometimes"?

    In addition, if I want to say that I want to do something on some occasions in the future, can I use "sometimes" in this way:
    I will sometimes travel by car.
    I sometimes won't travel by car. I'll go by bus.

    Thanks for all the answers.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 30-Apr-2017 at 21:11. Reason: Removed unnecessary line breaks

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