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    During electioneering they had ...

    During electioneering they had promised that if voted to power, the party will ensure that the AFSPA is withdrawn from the State.

    Shouldn't it be "...the party would ensure that the AFSPA would be withdrawn from the State"?

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    Last edited by Rover_KE; 26-May-2017 at 08:33. Reason: Enlarging font.
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    Re: During electioneering they had ...

    Mixed conditionals are not uncommon in English. In the above context, "will" is stronger (more certain) than "would."

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    Re: During electioneering they had ...

    Here is the full paragraph:

    While the PDP had maintained in its manifesto that it will review the Disturbed Areas Act, its leaders, during electioneering, had promised that if voted to power, the party will ensure that the AFSPA is withdrawn from the State. The BJP, on the other, had opposed any withdrawal of the AFSPA.

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    At the beginning of the article, we are told:

    The PDP seems to have diluted its stand on controversial Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA) whereas the BJP has taken a complete U-turn on Article 370

    Given that the PDP appears to be saying something different from what it said before the election, (at least, I think so), I think that the most reasonable tenses would be:

    While the PDP had maintained in its manifesto that it would review the Disturbed Areas Act, its leaders, during electioneering had promised that, if voted to power, the party would ensure that the ASPA was withdrawn from the state.

    What we have there is reported first conditions: "We will review the Disturbed Areas Act"; "If voted to power, the party will ensure that the AFSPA is withdrawn ..."
    Last edited by Piscean; 27-May-2017 at 06:51. Reason: typo

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    Re: During electioneering they had ...

    Thank you very much. "What we have there is reported first conditions" - please tell me what the intended meaning of this is.
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    #5

    Re: During electioneering they had ...

    "We will review the Disturbed Areas Act"
    "If voted to power the party will ensure that the AFPA is withdrawn ..."

    Those two sentences are in the form traditionally named first condition(al).The following two are the reported speech versions:

    While the PDP had maintained [...] that it would review the Disturbed Areas Act
    its leaders [...] had promised that [... ] if voted to power, the party would ensure that the ASPA was withdrawn
    Last edited by Piscean; 28-May-2017 at 04:38.

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    Re: During electioneering they had ...

    Thank you.
    But the first conditional would be "if we are voted to power, the party will ensure that the AFSPA is withdrawn."
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    #7

    Re: During electioneering they had ...

    First: "If (we are) voted to power the party will ensure that the AFPA is withdrawn ..."


    Reported : its leaders had promised that if (they were) voted to power, the party would ensure that the ASPA was withdrawn

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    #8

    Re: During electioneering they had ...

    Thank you.

    Is "we are" implied there? And therefore it is first conditional?

    But "If voted to power" directly comes in second conditional which should be followed by "... would ensure that". So isn't "if voted to power the party will ensure" a mixed conditional?
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    Re: During electioneering they had ...

    No. The verb omitted in the first conditional is 'are'; in the second conditional and in the backshifted reported version of the first, it is 'were'.

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