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    Usage of "that of"

    Is this sentence grammatically correct, "My sister is more beautiful than that of John" ?

    I know it is grammatically right to say "My sister is more beautiful than John's". I just want to know from native speakers if I can use "that of" to refer back living objects. please help me.

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    No, that's not correct.
    “Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”

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    Re: Usage of "that of"

    So, is it wrong if I say "My sister is more beautiful that of John"? Thanks in advace sir. please explain
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    Re: Usage of "that of"

    It is wrong. We simply do not say it like that.
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    Not least because you failed to capitalise "John" every time you wrote it.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Thank you, I have corrected my errors in the sentence. Is the sentence correct now?

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    Re: Usage of "that of"

    "My sister is more beautiful than that of John" is not correct.

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    Dear sirs, can you tell me why is the sentence "My sister is more beautiful than that of John" incorrect and correct usage of "that of"?

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    Re: Usage of "that of"

    Quote Originally Posted by subhajit123 View Post
    Dear sirs Please stop writing 'sir/sirs'. You are receiving answers from male and female teachers.)

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    an you tell me why is the sentence "My sister is more beautiful than that of John" is incorrect and show me the correct usage of "that of"?
    We don't use 'that' to refer back to people in this context.

    You can use 'that of' to refer to other living things like plants and animals:

    'My puppy is more playful than that of Willie Eckerslike';

    'Anna Conda's python is less friendly than that of Maurice Dance.'

    But as you already know (from post #1), it's more natural to say 'My sister is more beautiful than John's', stick to that construction instead.

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    Re: Usage of "that of"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    'My puppy is more playful than that of Willie Eckerslike';

    'Anna Conda's python is less friendly than that of Maurice Dance.'
    I'd use the form with the apostrope in those sentences.

    I think that we generally prefer the apostrophe form to of when the 'possessor' is a sentient being. The form can refer back to people and things:

    John's sister [NOT the sister of John] is beautiful.
    My sister is more beautiful than John's (sister). [NOT the sister of John/that of John]
    My car is older than John's. [Not the car of John/that of John]
    My sisters are more beautiful than John's daughters. [NOT the daughters of John/those of John]
    My puppy is more playful than Willie Eckerslike's. [? that of Willie Eckerslike]
    My experience of working in China was more pleasant than my brother's. [? that of my brother]

    When the 'possessor' noun phrase is three or more words, we generally prefer the form with of:

    The children of military personnel sent overseas tend to display more disruptive behaviour than those of military personnel based near their homes.
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